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Post by turmace on Apr 1, 2014 14:37:24 GMT
The Gift Grub spoof of the Sky Sports GAA coverage is brilliant. Gift Grub Spoof
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 1, 2014 16:34:14 GMT
RTÉ have secured rights to broadcast 31 games of the All-Ireland Championships in a new three-year agreement, with a further 14 games to be shown on Sky. In a separate development, RTÉ and the GAA are to launch an online international paid-for service offering Gaelic Games to audiences worldwide. Games will be streamed in HD with studio programming as broadcast to audiences in Ireland. The online service will enable users to watch the games on iPad or Android tablet, laptop, PC, Smart TV, or on mobile phone. In Ireland, a total of 45 provincial and All-Ireland Championship matches will be broadcast live on television for the next three years. The 31 championship games to be televised by RTÉ include All-Ireland finals and semi-finals in both codes All-Ireland hurling quarter-finals All six provincial finals in football and hurling Two of the four All-Ireland football quarter-finals Ulster Championship games covered by RTÉ, including the Provincial football final, will also be broadcast on BBC Northern Ireland. Sky Sports has obtained exclusive Island of Ireland rights to 14 Championship games. These consist of eight Saturday evening matches in the All-Ireland qualifiers, two All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals, and two Saturday evening and two Sunday provincial Championship games. In addition to these 14 games, Sky Sports will also broadcast live the All-Ireland Hurling and Football semi-finals and finals, thus making 20 live games available to its subscribers throughout Britain and Ireland. All games broadcast on Sky and the majority on RTÉ will be shown in HD. Radio coverage of GAA games remains with RTÉ and Newstalk, while Raidió na Gaeltachta will continue to broadcast both league and championship games trí Gaeilge. TG4 has retained its package of Sunday afternoon Allianz League matches. It has also been awarded coverage of the Electric Ireland All-Ireland Minor finals, bringing them back to Croke Park on the GAA’s two biggest days, and will again cover AIB Club Championships, the Irish Daily Mail Fitzgibbon and Sigerson Cups, Masita All-Ireland Post-Primary Schools competitions, the Cadburys Under-21 football championship, Bord Gáis Energy Under-21 hurling championship and County finals. It is anticipated that TG4 will again cover 62 live and 22 deferred games in each of the three years. Setanta Sports will continue to broadcast Saturday evening Allianz Leagues games.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2014 19:51:33 GMT
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Post by peanuts on Apr 1, 2014 22:11:16 GMT
Class!! It's a black card Jeff, I think he's sentenced him to death Jeff!
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Post by glengael on Apr 2, 2014 9:36:05 GMT
I can see the commercial side of this, the GAA want to maximise revenue so they'll sell to the highest bidder and you can be sure they are looking well beyond the timeline for this deal. It may only be 14 matches now, but if it works out well for both parties, there will be more for Sky and less for RTE in the next deal.
I know there is already a pay per view for some games with Setanta but as has been said by others, I don't know anyone who has subscribed just for those games. Most people I know either go to the League matches they wish to see or go to the pub to watch them. I may move in the wrong socio economic circles, I know but such is life.
Many tv viewers, myself included , had to pay quite a bit of money lately (in autumn 2012) to upgrade TVs and / or aeriels or more equipment to retain a basic TV service. Saorview, which was not saor at all.
Presently theres 160 Euro TV licence and next up there's the communication charge. And now the prospect of E700 subscription on top of that. Where is all the money supposed to come from? Most people I know are stretched financially with all the other things they have to pay so this isn't going to mean much too them. Not everyone likes or can afford to go to the pub to see games.
I know I won't be subscribing.
I try and go to all the Kerry games in the summer and anything else I get to see is a bonus. In the winter its TG4 all the way and if the GAA mess with that deal, God help them.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Apr 2, 2014 9:51:28 GMT
According to live gaelic the Gaa and Sky are at advanced stages of renaming Croke Park to Sky Blue Park. The blue stands for Dublin. I heard it's going to be named Whinge & A Player Park. Have to hope this venture doesn't prove thin end of a whinge wedge. Can't see how it will though, GAA will really only remain a mass audience thing in Ireland and for that they need mass audience TV. If it ever really takes off abroad things could change but a large part of it's popularity is cultural. On another level this might start to wake RTE & TV3 up a bit regardi g the quality of coverage and commentary. TG4 has lead the way in the last few years
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 2, 2014 10:36:27 GMT
I have sky sports already as my youngfella follows the premiership and I follow the cricket. I have a setanta subscription too, which will be gone as soon as the league matches are over.
I know its expensive for people to take out these subscriptions. I think the sports package costs me about an extra 40 or 50 quid a month. But the GAA are trying to market the games to a wider audience. Wheteher that works out is anybodys guess but its worth a try.
Some of the probing questions asked on the rte news by bryan dobson were way over the top, and the usual Anti brigade were peppered through the audience of prime time with their carefully choreographed questions including the Aul Dublin Character chipping in with his " I call the GAA the Grab All Association.
I have the sports package at home because I dont want to go and watch the matches in the pub or bring my kids there for that purpose ( imagine the state a fella could be in if you spent about 8 hours in the pub watching a 50 over cricket international). I have no moral objection to going to the pub, but just prefer watching matches at home.
But to be honest I dont see Gaelic Games becoming the next big thing on a global level.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 2, 2014 10:59:44 GMT
...( imagine the state a fella could be in if you spent about 8 hours in the pub watching a 50 over cricket international). That sounds like great craic if you had a bit of a drinkin' 'n' bettin' game going along with it.
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Post by lár na páirce on Apr 2, 2014 11:21:15 GMT
Is there an appetite for taking on Croke Park over SKY?
Is there enough people to lobby our clubs to force the Kerry County Board into action?
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Post by glengael on Apr 2, 2014 11:41:57 GMT
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Apr 2, 2014 11:45:31 GMT
I think people are losing the run of themselves over this whole sky thing. It is 14 matches a year. Some of which the finals, and semi finals are on FTA anyway.
I don't think the GAA actually made the decision on purely commercial basis as their is only a marginal increase in revenue by going with Sky as opposed to TV3. I think their idea of trying to broadcast games to a wider audience especially the expat community in Britain is a notable one. SKY are the only ones that could offer this as part of their package. Fine I accept people are being priced out of the market with the sky subscription etc and with the GAA being an amateur organization this doesn't sit well.
The GAA also need to expand the games and even the introduction of SKY might lead to a higher profile for the games here at home which may boost playing numbers among the kids. I for one am looking forward to seeing what SKY deliver and am delighted TV3 are gone
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 2, 2014 11:54:53 GMT
It will be interesting to see how both sides of the argument develops if the first pay per view quarter final tie involves Kerry v Dublin.........................
As the All-Ireland semi finals and finals will be carried by both providers, Sky and RTE, is two exclusive quarter finals to Sky not toe testing for pay per view on a larger future world wide scale?
Interesting space which will fuel amateur v professional arguments over time and tickle the minds of future generations of county players.
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Post by ArthurG on Apr 2, 2014 12:55:46 GMT
Not a chance - Follow your name on this one!!
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Post by ArthurG on Apr 2, 2014 13:07:12 GMT
I cannot understand the arguments brandished around about people being isolated and deprived etc. Back in the "good old days" of the 1980,s and 90's we were "treated" to 4 live senior hurling games a year (2 senior semi's + final) and 5 senior football. Was anybody isolated during those times? No people went to games and those that didn't watched highlights that night on the SG. It was only with the advent of competition from other broadcasters and soccer in particular (Sky) that RTE got off its a5s and started to show more live games. This deal will help keep everybody honest IMO.
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Post by seamo on Apr 2, 2014 13:41:39 GMT
I cannot understand the arguments brandished around about people being isolated and deprived etc. Back in the "good old days" of the 1980,s and 90's we were "treated" to 4 live senior hurling games a year (2 senior semi's + final) and 5 senior football. Was anybody isolated during those times? No people went to games and those that didn't watched highlights that night on the SG. It was only with the advent of competition from other broadcasters and soccer in particular (Sky) that RTE got off its a5s and started to show more live games. This deal will help keep everybody honest IMO. Ethos. This deal completely undermines the ethos of what the GAA continuously tries to pride itself on. Sky didn't just buy the rights to 14 match's, they bought themselves a foot in the door towards the GAA further prioritising intercounty football over club football. Whatever chance there had been of club football getting a better deal on the fixtures schedule is gone now. If it doesn't suit Sky then the change won't occur. As someone who now lives outside the country, I will be making use of Sky's service's, but only because RTE and TV3 are embarrassingly awful in terms of the services they provide. And the GAA didn't do this for me or anyone else, they did it for the £££, ironic considering they are so quick to associate the word "amateur" with the GAA!!
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Post by kot on Apr 2, 2014 14:02:09 GMT
This is being completely blown out of proportion. People having to fork out to watch league games for years while being stuck with a sports channel that didnt have much else. (Setanta)
And the Irish abroad have been fleeced for years. From having to pay $20 to go into a dingy pub to watch, to channels in the U.K. charging MORE than sky do for their sports package to show the G.A.A and matches from Chilean Premier League and UK Ice Hockey championship. )
At least now you pay to see extra G.A.A games and you get a decent sports package with it.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 2, 2014 14:29:12 GMT
James O'Donoghue
"To those who are disgusted about this SkyGAA deal, please say f*** the tv and instead attend the matches. Remember #NothingBeatsBeingThere"
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 2, 2014 14:45:24 GMT
The GAA caved in to Sky by giving them exclusive rights to broadcasts in Ireland and which is what everyone agrees is a disaster. They need to renegotiate this and there is competition; could Setanta broadcast globally? The current deal is against what the GAA stands for and no, I am not against change as having been en emigrant I know first hand that all games should be accessible everywhere, and as part of the TV license on home soil. Forcing people to pay €700 is pathetic and people won't be happy, and that will apply to stronger and weaker counties. I don't honestly think the GAA was well advised and Sky would be very sharp in this respect, and so won the day.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 2, 2014 15:13:29 GMT
The GAA caved in to Sky by giving them exclusive rights to broadcasts in Ireland and which is what everyone agrees is a disaster. They didn't 'cave in' and not everyone agrees this is a disaster. They need to renegotiate this and there is competition; could Setanta broadcast globally? Setanta could not compete The current deal is against what the GAA stands for What would the difference be between this and a Setanta deal? and no, I am not against change as having been en emigrant I know first hand that all games should be accessible Why should all games be accessible? everywhere, and as part of the TV license on home soil. Forcing people to pay €700 is pathetic Nobody is forcing you. and people won't be happy, They never are and that will apply to stronger and weaker counties. I don't honestly think the GAA was well advised and Sky would be very sharp in this respect, and so won the day.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 2, 2014 15:32:52 GMT
I should have named this thread 'Sky High Charges'
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 2, 2014 15:46:53 GMT
The GAA caved in to Sky by giving them exclusive rights to broadcasts in Ireland and which is what everyone agrees is a disaster. They didn't 'cave in' and not everyone agrees this is a disaster.THEY CAVED IN BY DEPRIVING US TO SEE GAA GAMES ON OUR OWN TV, UNLESS WE PAY €700 They need to renegotiate this and there is competition; could Setanta broadcast globally? Setanta could not compete CAN SETANTA BROADCAST GLOBALLY? The current deal is against what the GAA stands for What would the difference be between this and a Setanta deal? WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY €700 and no, I am not against change as having been en emigrant I know first hand that all games should be accessible Why should all games be accessible? BECAUSE IRISH AND GAA PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND INCLUDING IRELAND, WOULD LIKE IT, SURE YOU EVEN LIKE TO WATCH GAA GAMES YOURSELF? everywhere, and as part of the TV license on home soil. Forcing people to pay €700 is pathetic Nobody is forcing you. IF I WANT TO WATCH THE GAMES THEY ARE and people won't be happy, They never are WELL WE WOULD BE HAPPIER and that will apply to stronger and weaker counties. I don't honestly think the GAA was well advised and Sky would be very sharp in this respect, and so won the day. SO YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THIS? I think Tomaisin Crean is a real GAA man but maybe he should look at the bigger picture here, be a man of the world like, well like Crean was himself! Knowing you, you cannot be happy with such an arrangement as it treats real GAA volunteers unfairly. I don't believe the GAA got good value here with Sky High ChargesPS I just did capitals to make it easier to follow debate, I am not meaning to raise my voice
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Post by fenit67 on Apr 2, 2014 16:08:47 GMT
I do not know the details of the Sky deal but I think a little perspective is needed. During a three year period Sky will broadcast 14 matches per year. If at the end of that period the GAA feel that they will not renew the partnership then that will be the end of it. I cannot see the GAA becoming a subsidiary of Sky or the GAA championships becoming professional sports. Should any person think that the GAA will allow a TV company to dictate what should happen to its sports then they are deluding themselves. Sky being a British will be the reason for most of the indignation and a supposed betrayal of the GAA's principles will be another.
Whether we like it or not the games will be semi-professional in the near future but that will not signal Sky dictating terms; how could it? We are well aware that the calendar needs a proper structure as at present it is a mess and clubs are allowed to use the excuse of missing players for not playing championship games. The negative overreaction to this deal is staggering and there is an amount of hypocrisy as many of the same people will quite happily shout for some English team on the telly thanks to whom; Sky!
Any sport that they have chosen to broadcast has been dealt with very well and the sports in question have benefitted. The argument that many in the country are being unfairly treated is bunk as there are any number of ways to see and hear matches that don't pass by authorised means! I am certain of one thing, and that is the standard of RTE's coverage will be stratospheric in the future in comparison to the drivel that they serve up now.
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Post by seamo on Apr 2, 2014 16:43:05 GMT
I do not know the details of the Sky deal but I think a little perspective is needed. During a three year period Sky will broadcast 14 matches per year. If at the end of that period the GAA feel that they will not renew the partnership then that will be the end of it. I cannot see the GAA becoming a subsidiary of Sky or the GAA championships becoming professional sports. Should any person think that the GAA will allow a TV company to dictate what should happen to its sports then they are deluding themselves. Sky being a British will be the reason for most of the indignation and a supposed betrayal of the GAA's principles will be another. Whether we like it or not the games will be semi-professional in the near future but that will not signal Sky dictating terms; how could it? We are well aware that the calendar needs a proper structure as at present it is a mess and clubs are allowed to use the excuse of missing players for not playing championship games. The negative overreaction to this deal is staggering and there is an amount of hypocrisy as many of the same people will quite happily shout for some English team on the telly thanks to whom; Sky! Any sport that they have chosen to broadcast has been dealt with very well and the sports in question have benefitted. The argument that many in the country are being unfairly treated is bunk as there are any number of ways to see and hear matches that don't pass by authorised means! I am certain of one thing, and that is the standard of RTE's coverage will be stratospheric in the future in comparison to the drivel that they serve up now. Just because you can't see it happening doesn't mean it won't happen...unless of course you are Mystic Meg?!!! Delusion can be a too way thing. If the GAA wanted to free up time in the summer to play more club games (as we here have clamoured for!), then they are free to do so; but the downside now is of Sky being against this (summer is often it's quitest time). The GAA don't have to listen to Sky, but Sky don't have to pay the GAA either for something they don't want....and surely by now nobody here is delusional enough to think that Sky's money isn't important to the GAA. So it now becomes a choice between reforming fixtures for betterment of game/players/supporters/ volunteers etc v's the money that Sky pay the GAA.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 19:30:31 GMT
With the matches on Sky,could we see them been streamed on the net for free,there is a few sports streaming sites that stream a lot of sports for free.
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Post by seamo on Apr 2, 2014 19:32:31 GMT
With the matches on Sky,could we see them been streamed on the net for free,there is a few sports streaming sites that stream a lot of sports for free. All depends on whether someone out there wants to go to the bother of doing so......but there's always one so yeah it's likely GAA games will be streamed illegally.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 2, 2014 19:36:42 GMT
According to live gaelic the Gaa and Sky are at advanced stages of renaming Croke Park to Sky Blue Park. The blue stands for Dublin. Semple Stadium is to be renamed the Thurles Sky Sports dome apparently after a redevelopment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 20:50:51 GMT
According to live gaelic the Gaa and Sky are at advanced stages of renaming Croke Park to Sky Blue Park. The blue stands for Dublin. Semple Stadium is to be renamed the Thurles Sky Sports dome apparently after a redevelopment. Sky will make teams have little golden stars on the jerseys to show how many All Ireland's they have won, Wont be enough room on the Kerry jersey
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 2, 2014 20:58:00 GMT
We could stick a few on Cork jerseys, they have a bit of space to spare.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 2, 2014 21:13:25 GMT
Semple Stadium is to be renamed the Thurles Sky Sports dome apparently after a redevelopment. Sky will make teams have little golden stars on the jerseys to show how many All Ireland's they have won, Wont be enough room on the Kerry jersey Aren't there circles on the back of the Kerry jersey for each all Ireland? The Kingdom’s record number of All Ireland titles are recognised in the Kerry jersey detail with 36 concentric rings.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 2, 2014 21:30:26 GMT
Had another look at the deal and though we miss out on some games on RTE it isn't as bad as I expected and it will indeed improve exposure of gaelic games to expats around the world. It is a double edged sword in my opinion though as Sky is a business and they will renegotiate the deal at some point and want a bit more than they have now. At the moment I need Sky Sports to watch setanta but setanta only show a handful of games so I don't fork out for it at the moment. If sky are showing more and more games though I have the option between going to the pub or getting sky sports. I don't want to do either thing though so will probably have to resort to semi-illegal streaming sites.
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