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Post by hurlingman on Mar 13, 2014 9:49:43 GMT
With the Under 21s over for another year might be time to see what people think about the juniors. Players who won All Irelands in 2012 can play again this year so will add quite a few players. Its a good chance foe some Under 21s to get more experience at higher level.
Keepers
Shane Murphy Kilcummin Sean Og O'Ciardubhain Cordal Sean Dee Beale
Assuming Shane Murphy didnt play in the county championship last year (as far as i remember he didnt) a run out with the juniors this year would do him a lot of good. You would think however O'Ciardubhain will simply go back in again.
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Nathan Breen Beaufort Gavin Crowley Templenoe Jack McGuire Listowel Emmets Padraigh Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht Tadhg Morley Templenoe Eamonn Hickson Annascaul Kevin O'Dwyer Waterville Colin O'Mahony Ballydonoghue Eamonn Kiely Brosna Niall Fitzgerald Waterville Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht
A lot of this years Under 21s again would do them well to get a run with the juniors, add in a few more experienced lads. David Culhane and a few others on the senior panel if they were to play would add a little more.
Midfield
Damien Somers St. Senans James Walsh Knocknagoshel Andrew Garnett Spa Aidan Walsh St. Marys
I assume Garnett will give it one more go with the juniors, i hope he does has his experience would be vital. James Walsh i would have thought at this stage would been pushing for a place on the senior panel but a good yera with the juniors could help hom.
Forwards
Adrian Spillane Templenoe Thomas Hickey Desmonds Ciarán Keating Skellig Rangers Niall Sheehy John Mitchels Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh/Glencar Jason Hickson Annascaul Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory Paul O'Donoghue St. Marys Mike O'Donoghue Spa Paul O Connor Kenmare Kieran Hurley St Pats Niall O'Sé Dromid Pearses
Again a lot of young lads to look at with 1/2 more experienced lads to bring them along
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Post by gaafan1972 on Mar 13, 2014 22:54:57 GMT
Who is the junior manager
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Post by Premier on Mar 13, 2014 23:50:40 GMT
With the Under 21s over for another year might be time to see what people think about the juniors. Players who won All Irelands in 2012 can play again this year so will add quite a few players. Its a good chance foe some Under 21s to get more experience at higher level. Keepers Shane Murphy Kilcummin Sean Og O'Ciardubhain Cordal Sean Dee Beale Assuming Shane Murphy didnt play in the county championship last year (as far as i remember he didnt) a run out with the juniors this year would do him a lot of good. You would think however O'Ciardubhain will simply go back in again. Backs Nathan Breen Beaufort Gavin Crowley Templenoe Jack McGuire Listowel Emmets Padraigh Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht Tadhg Morley Templenoe Eamonn Hickson Annascaul Kevin O'Dwyer Waterville Colin O'Mahony Ballydonoghue Eamonn Kiely Brosna Niall Fitzgerald Waterville Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht A lot of this years Under 21s again would do them well to get a run with the juniors, add in a few more experienced lads. David Culhane and a few others on the senior panel if they were to play would add a little more. Midfield Damien Somers St. Senans James Walsh Knocknagoshel Andrew Garnett Spa Aidan Walsh St. Marys I assume Garnett will give it one more go with the juniors, i hope he does has his experience would be vital. James Walsh i would have thought at this stage would been pushing for a place on the senior panel but a good yera with the juniors could help hom. Forwards Adrian Spillane Templenoe Thomas Hickey Desmonds Ciarán Keating Skellig Rangers Niall Sheehy John Mitchels Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh/Glencar Jason Hickson Annascaul Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory Paul O'Donoghue St. Marys Mike O'Donoghue Spa Paul O Connor Kenmare Kieran Hurley St Pats Niall O'Sé Dromid Pearses Again a lot of young lads to look at with 1/2 more experienced lads to bring them along Niall O'Se has been in Austraila for nearly 2 years at this stage
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 14, 2014 9:05:24 GMT
With the Under 21s over for another year might be time to see what people think about the juniors. Players who won All Irelands in 2012 can play again this year so will add quite a few players. Its a good chance foe some Under 21s to get more experience at higher level. Keepers Shane Murphy Kilcummin Sean Og O'Ciardubhain Cordal Sean Dee Beale Assuming Shane Murphy didnt play in the county championship last year (as far as i remember he didnt) a run out with the juniors this year would do him a lot of good. You would think however O'Ciardubhain will simply go back in again. Backs Nathan Breen Beaufort Gavin Crowley Templenoe Jack McGuire Listowel Emmets Padraigh Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht Tadhg Morley Templenoe Eamonn Hickson Annascaul Kevin O'Dwyer Waterville Colin O'Mahony Ballydonoghue Eamonn Kiely Brosna Niall Fitzgerald Waterville Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht A lot of this years Under 21s again would do them well to get a run with the juniors, add in a few more experienced lads. David Culhane and a few others on the senior panel if they were to play would add a little more. Midfield Damien Somers St. Senans James Walsh Knocknagoshel Andrew Garnett Spa Aidan Walsh St. Marys I assume Garnett will give it one more go with the juniors, i hope he does has his experience would be vital. James Walsh i would have thought at this stage would been pushing for a place on the senior panel but a good yera with the juniors could help hom. Forwards Adrian Spillane Templenoe Thomas Hickey Desmonds Ciarán Keating Skellig Rangers Niall Sheehy John Mitchels Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh/Glencar Jason Hickson Annascaul Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory Paul O'Donoghue St. Marys Mike O'Donoghue Spa Paul O Connor Kenmare Kieran Hurley St Pats Niall O'Sé Dromid Pearses Again a lot of young lads to look at with 1/2 more experienced lads to bring them along Niall O'Se has been in Austraila for nearly 2 years at this stage Its quite impressive that he managed to win a medal with them 2 years ago if he was in Austraila, seeing as hes been there for 2 years
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Post by kerryeye on Mar 15, 2014 11:55:38 GMT
I saw it mentioned in some other thread about how wrong it is that once the u21s finish that they are pushed to one side back to their clubs and wont train with Kerry team again for months and for those that are over age may never again. This is killing the players development.
If they were brought into junior set up under the guise of development team along with some input from senior management it could be of big benefit to some players.
You could be looking at a very strong junior team this year if it was taken seriously by the management and used with the senior team and u21 team.
Players like Alan Fitzgerald. James Walsh and David Culhane should definataly be part of a Junior set up this year.if not on the senior panel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 13:42:48 GMT
Niall O Se went to oz in sept 2012 and looks like he wont be back for awhile,
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Post by nkchardstuff on Mar 24, 2014 22:20:59 GMT
With the Under 21s over for another year might be time to see what people think about the juniors. Players who won All Irelands in 2012 can play again this year so will add quite a few players. Its a good chance foe some Under 21s to get more experience at higher level. Keepers Shane Murphy Kilcummin Sean Og O'Ciardubhain Cordal Sean Dee Beale Assuming Shane Murphy didnt play in the county championship last year (as far as i remember he didnt) a run out with the juniors this year would do him a lot of good. You would think however O'Ciardubhain will simply go back in again. Backs Nathan Breen Beaufort Gavin Crowley Templenoe Jack McGuire Listowel Emmets Padraigh Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht Tadhg Morley Templenoe Eamonn Hickson Annascaul Kevin O'Dwyer Waterville Colin O'Mahony Ballydonoghue Eamonn Kiely Brosna Niall Fitzgerald Waterville Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht A lot of this years Under 21s again would do them well to get a run with the juniors, add in a few more experienced lads. David Culhane and a few others on the senior panel if they were to play would add a little more. Midfield Damien Somers St. Senans James Walsh Knocknagoshel Andrew Garnett Spa Aidan Walsh St. Marys I assume Garnett will give it one more go with the juniors, i hope he does has his experience would be vital. James Walsh i would have thought at this stage would been pushing for a place on the senior panel but a good yera with the juniors could help hom. Forwards Adrian Spillane Templenoe Thomas Hickey Desmonds Ciarán Keating Skellig Rangers Niall Sheehy John Mitchels Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh/Glencar Jason Hickson Annascaul Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory Paul O'Donoghue St. Marys Mike O'Donoghue Spa Paul O Connor Kenmare Kieran Hurley St Pats Niall O'Sé Dromid Pearses Again a lot of young lads to look at with 1/2 more experienced lads to bring them along Kieran Quirke from Duagh is a strong candidate for the backs department along with Ambrose Lanigan from Tarbert who is injured at the moment but it due back in the next month I believe. Also Paud Costello from Ballyduff and the Kerry hurlers is a strong contender. Although injured with cruciate ligament damage at the moment he should be looked at and appraoched when he returns. Sean Dee is also injured at the moment and is unlikely to return to the junior panel this year and from hearing about Beale mathces his replacement Joe Downey is putting in some good performances and making the number 1 jersey his own.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 24, 2014 22:45:31 GMT
Bored of a Monday night and was looking at players who featured for Kerry in the league this season and how many of them had previously lined out for the Juniors.
Anthony Maher Darren O'Sullivan Shane Enright Stephen O’Brien Brian Maguire Conor Cox Jack Sherwood Pa Kilkenny Alan Fitzgerald
9 out of the 29 players used in the league, played for the Juniors previously.
When you consider how many of the 29 players in the senior squad would have been ineligible for the juniors, it's not a bad return at all,especially when you look at the age profile of those who have featured, it's clear that it's a decent way of developing players.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 24, 2014 23:07:20 GMT
Also pondering on things a bit further - Declan Sullivan lined out for the juniors as well at one stage - so you can take it to 10 our of 30 assuming he plays in the league. Looking at the list of players from club who were ineligible - the number in the senior squad who were ever eligible for junior and didnt play for them is very small if not zero. [not 100% on the eligibility of all (if someone missed senior championship with injury for instance) and not bothered about tracking it down] Did prompt the random thought - Gooch will technically be eligible to line out for the Juniors in 2015
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Post by Premier on Mar 25, 2014 0:02:06 GMT
Also pondering on things a bit further - Declan Sullivan lined out for the juniors as well at one stage - so you can take it to 10 our of 30 assuming he plays in the league. Looking at the list of players from club who were ineligible - the number in the senior squad who were ever eligible for junior and didnt play for them is very small if not zero. [not 100% on the eligibility of all (if someone missed senior championship with injury for instance) and not bothered about tracking it down] Did prompt the random thought - Gooch will technically be eligible to line out for the Juniors in 2015 But sure Gooch plays for Crokes, a Senior Club Championship team
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Post by diego on Mar 25, 2014 2:20:59 GMT
Also pondering on things a bit further - Declan Sullivan lined out for the juniors as well at one stage - so you can take it to 10 our of 30 assuming he plays in the league. Looking at the list of players from club who were ineligible - the number in the senior squad who were ever eligible for junior and didnt play for them is very small if not zero. [not 100% on the eligibility of all (if someone missed senior championship with injury for instance) and not bothered about tracking it down] Did prompt the random thought - Gooch will technically be eligible to line out for the Juniors in 2015 But sure Gooch plays for Crokes, a Senior Club Championship team You are only ineligible for the Kerry junior team if you actually played in senior county championship with your club in previous year.
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Post by diego on Mar 25, 2014 2:23:34 GMT
With the Under 21s over for another year might be time to see what people think about the juniors. Players who won All Irelands in 2012 can play again this year so will add quite a few players. Its a good chance foe some Under 21s to get more experience at higher level. Midfield Damien Somers St. Senans James Walsh Knocknagoshel Andrew Garnett Spa Aidan Walsh St. Marys I assume Garnett will give it one more go with the juniors, i hope he does has his experience would be vital. James Walsh i would have thought at this stage would been pushing for a place on the senior panel but a good yera with the juniors could help hom. Aidan Walsh gone to the US for the year so won't be available.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 25, 2014 9:03:41 GMT
Also pondering on things a bit further - Declan Sullivan lined out for the juniors as well at one stage - so you can take it to 10 our of 30 assuming he plays in the league. Looking at the list of players from club who were ineligible - the number in the senior squad who were ever eligible for junior and didnt play for them is very small if not zero. [not 100% on the eligibility of all (if someone missed senior championship with injury for instance) and not bothered about tracking it down] Did prompt the random thought - Gooch will technically be eligible to line out for the Juniors in 2015 Thats Declan Sullivan from Lispole
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 25, 2014 9:04:39 GMT
Also pondering on things a bit further - Declan Sullivan lined out for the juniors as well at one stage - so you can take it to 10 our of 30 assuming he plays in the league. Looking at the list of players from club who were ineligible - the number in the senior squad who were ever eligible for junior and didnt play for them is very small if not zero. [not 100% on the eligibility of all (if someone missed senior championship with injury for instance) and not bothered about tracking it down] Did prompt the random thought - Gooch will technically be eligible to line out for the Juniors in 2015 But sure Gooch plays for Crokes, a Senior Club Championship team At this stage how do people still not get this?
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Post by wornout2 on Mar 25, 2014 9:57:48 GMT
Givehimaball is correct. Gooch is eligible in 2015. He would have to play in this years county championship to be ineligible. His brother Mike played for the Juniors a few years back
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Post by wornout2 on Mar 25, 2014 9:58:49 GMT
Totally unrealistic for Gooch but the management could look at other players in senior clubs who didn't play last year for one reason or another.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 25, 2014 11:56:59 GMT
Totally unrealistic for Gooch but the management could look at other players in senior clubs who didn't play last year for one reason or another. There should be a way to have a certain number of players from senior teams players to be able to play with the juniors. Lads that are under 21/22 who are a good senior championship players could benefit big time with a year with the juniors. Cork use their junior team very well when it comes to younger players
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Post by himself on Mar 25, 2014 13:03:44 GMT
Just a bit of trivia. Mike Cooper, who regularly featured as wingback on the County Championship Top 15 as selected by The Kingdom newspaper, was eligible for the Kerry juniors in 2002 because he had not played for Crokes in the 2001 county championsship. They reached the final where they went down to Wicklow, who had entered their senior panel in the junior championship and played their reserve panel in the Leinster Senior Championship. If I remember right, it was the exact same day that his younger brother made his debut for the Kerry seniors in the Division Two League Final against Laois, lobbing the keeper for a fantastic goal.Really skillful player, but probably too light physically. He was worth a look, though.
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Post by playboy on Mar 25, 2014 15:55:48 GMT
who is the manager of kerry juniors?
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Post by sidelined on Apr 30, 2014 22:23:38 GMT
same question who is the management for the juniors this year . out in seven weeks, surely a panel is in place with the u21 out and players who featured in mcgrath cup available ,the junior championship can be used to develop these players for senior team.
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Post by ricky7 on May 12, 2014 23:07:12 GMT
Stephen Wallace is new kerry junior manager... Heard no one else wanted it
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Post by sidelined on May 13, 2014 9:17:50 GMT
the county board should consider combining the u21 and junior management as was done previously with senior and u21. the u21 championship final is played already and with a large overlap of players why not continue to the junior championship to develop these players to senior standard. the last couple of years a huge effort and expense was put into the u21 for 1 game. after defeat to cork the players were left go their seperate ways i know players from senior clubs cant play junior but i feel it would benefit both teams to combine the two panels and management.
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Post by givehimaball on May 13, 2014 15:41:07 GMT
Stephen Wallace is new kerry junior manager... Heard no one else wanted it Time to combine the u21 and junior manager job? The county board should simply state that if you want the U21 job you have to take the junior job as well, given both will likely have a crossover in terms of players and given that both are vital in terms of bringing players through to the senior team. Have joint training sessions on occasion as well - which would improve the standards the better players in both groups would face. Seems a complete no-brainer to me.
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Post by kerrygold on May 15, 2014 21:49:31 GMT
Stephen Wallace is new kerry junior manager... Heard no one else wanted it Time to combine the u21 and junior manager job? The county board should simply state that if you want the U21 job you have to take the junior job as well, given both will likely have a crossover in terms of players and given that both are vital in terms of bringing players through to the senior team. Have joint training sessions on occasion as well - which would improve the standards the better players in both groups would face. Seems a complete no-brainer to me. Agreed, its a real shame they can't use this grade to develop the fringe Kerry senior panelists.
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Post by buck02 on May 16, 2014 13:15:03 GMT
Not going to happen - could you see Darragh O Se or Eamonn Fitzmaurice before him managing the Kerry juniors? While the idea is good in theory, the U21s start training in September and juniors could continue to August. It would be a year round job.
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Post by shannonsider on May 16, 2014 21:00:39 GMT
I was once against such an idea, but the way things have gone we need to play all available under 21s along with fringe Kerry panelists at Junior level now. Under 21s finishing up in March after 1 game last 2 years is not good. Need to get as many of them involved as possible to get some experience.
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Post by 1955 on May 16, 2014 22:57:30 GMT
The real question is why are our seniors county footballers being stopped from playing with their clubs this weekend. Because the trainer wants to bring on a bonding weekend?
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Post by givehimaball on May 17, 2014 17:35:22 GMT
Selectors : Denis Shine O'Sullivan, Dromid, Fergus Clifford, Listry & Timmy O'Sullivan, Rahillys
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Post by 1955 on May 17, 2014 22:11:24 GMT
The manager trawled the county for selectors and ended up with one from a senior club but none from an intermediate club??
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 17, 2014 22:13:46 GMT
The manager trawled the county for selectors and ended up with one from a senior club but none from an intermediate club?? ...I'll do it.
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