inchperfect
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Post by inchperfect on Feb 28, 2014 22:06:02 GMT
I'm liking that team. Is this Paul Geaney's first start?
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 28, 2014 23:30:09 GMT
Is the match on TG4 on Sunday?
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Post by Tadhgeen on Feb 28, 2014 23:42:56 GMT
Kerry's best backs potentially picked for this game against Mayo's best and most experienced forwards.
Can Kerry's new look forwards do the business?
This is a very close one to call. Our half forward line will need to deliver I think for us to get over the line. Have we the subs to replace from this line and the full forward line when needed?
Midfield also crucial - big performance needed at least cover on bench with Buckley. Moran needs to land the frees and likewise JOD.
I would be reasonably optimistic - we tend to play above ourselves away from home in the league and we are due a win in the league against Mayo. Ciarrai Abu.
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Post by gbbuei on Mar 1, 2014 0:40:10 GMT
Was Cox not worth another look after the last day against Derry and a solid enough Sigerson?
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Post by southward on Mar 1, 2014 0:51:07 GMT
Is the match on TG4 on Sunday? I think so, yeah.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 1, 2014 12:08:04 GMT
Biggest surprise is probably Darren being named on the subs bench, especially since he's also in the rehabbing from injury category. Looks like the cloning operation was a success !!! - next up Cooper. Really didnt expect to see him for a while yet. The return of Marc and the Crokes lads helps to strengthen the bench options a bit. Will be up against it but if we could pull off a win it would be a big plus. First chance to see how Kerry react without Cooper. The Kerry panel still looks very strong when you cast an eye over it. Big opportunity for a couple of players to put their hands up and claim one of the starting places. The Colm Cooper factor is irrelevant until the August/September window. Cork can be taken in the Munster Championship, a good draw in a potential quarter final and a Hail Mary game in an All-Ireland semi final, with the Kerry players in the zone, and the Cooper factor might not really become a factor until the last 15 minutes of an Ireland Final. Who knows then what might happen........... I would think the Kerry have plenty to play for in 2014, if not with a pep in their step. Tomorrow won't be easy but a win would be a massive boost going into the 35 day window now.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 1, 2014 12:22:40 GMT
I'LL be looking for the following from this game
Kerry winning its own kickots
Someone to fill the role of playmaker in the way Darragh, Galvin and Colm did.
Paul Murphy continuing on the way to establishing himself
Kerry starting to kick long range points again. None were kicked against Dublin last year whilst Kilkenny, Connolly, Flynn and Brogan notched up about 8. Ultimately that was crucial.
Until those things fall into place then Kerry wont win the 2014 all Ireland in my opinion anyway.
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Post by fitz on Mar 1, 2014 12:47:23 GMT
Winning tomorrow would be a big milestone for the road ahead. Mayo are in similar place to us, so as close to a Championship match for a league game as one could get arguably
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Post by dabomber on Mar 1, 2014 15:18:16 GMT
Big enough representation on the panel from the minor team of 08, Brian Kelly Fionn fitz Peter Crowley Jonathan Lyne Daithi Casey BJ Keane Paul Geaney Jack Sherwood James O'Donoghue Barry Shan
Lyne is injured i know but if he wasnt he would be on there
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 1, 2014 15:26:25 GMT
Paul Geaney showed lost of leadership for UCC.
Looking forward to seeing him against mayo
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 1, 2014 20:06:59 GMT
Daithi Casey at 11. Big chance.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 2, 2014 12:42:07 GMT
Big enough representation on the panel from the minor team of 08, Brian Kelly Fionn fitz Peter Crowley Jonathan Lyne Daithi Casey BJ Keane Paul Geaney Jack Sherwood James O'Donoghue Barry Shan Lyne is injured i know but if he wasnt he would be on there And out of them: Brian Kelly,Fionn Fitz, Jonathon Lyne, Daithi Casey, Jack Sherwood, James O' Donoghue.. were all on the St. Brendans Killarney team that reached the hogan cup final in 2008. So there is definetley chemistry in that team.
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Post by dabomber on Mar 2, 2014 13:28:39 GMT
Big enough representation on the panel from the minor team of 08, Brian Kelly Fionn fitz Peter Crowley Jonathan Lyne Daithi Casey BJ Keane Paul Geaney Jack Sherwood James O'Donoghue Barry Shan Lyne is injured i know but if he wasnt he would be on there And out of them: Brian Kelly,Fionn Fitz, Jonathon Lyne, Daithi Casey, Jack Sherwood, James O' Donoghue.. were all on the St. Brendans Killarney team that reached the hogan cup final in 2008. So there is definetley chemistry in that team. Daithi and jack never went to Brendan's, daithi was with the Irish school in Tralee , and jack the green and isk
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 14:37:15 GMT
How did Andy a Moran not get a black card for the most blatant cynical jersey pull on Daithi Casey in first half. Ref bottled it.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Mar 2, 2014 14:44:21 GMT
Is a pull back of the jersey a black card? Mayo have been guilty on at least 2 occasions with Kerry in good attacking positions. Also a deliberate pull of the leg by Mayo - is this not cynical play?
Mayo sailing very close to the wind on the cynical play.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 14:53:33 GMT
It was a deliberate act designed to pull back a plater who is getting away from you. It is a black card in my view. They just highlighted it in the analysis.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 15:02:09 GMT
Enright can have few complaints for that but the rules have to be applied to both sides evenly
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Post by Tadhgeen on Mar 2, 2014 15:02:29 GMT
Enright off on black card. Ref being inconsistent at best incompetent at worst
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Post by mozzy on Mar 2, 2014 15:44:07 GMT
Brutal game ... Can't believe how bad this team looked today. The ref was just as bad - where did they get that guy ? All in all really bad day and I have no idea where we are heading or where the rescue comes from. Two Kerry players going for the same ball on numerous occasions and knocking the ball out of each other's hands, giving it back to Mayo sums up the disorganization and lack of leadership and belief. I know it's the league and I know these are all relatively new players but this transition looks like it's going to be a long one. Does Fitzmaurice have the experience to really take this young players ? Just curious not saying he does or doesn't - based on last few games I am concerned for our immediate months and years ahead.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 2, 2014 15:49:23 GMT
A few observations: 1) We finished very poorly again- it must be a mental thing that once the chips are down-we wilt. 2) The delivery of ball from the backs was very poor- only Fionn Fitz is even mildly upto speed in this regard 3) Mark looked off the pace and delivery into the forward line was poor 4) Forwards runs were mediocre at best 5) We have very little explosive power in our team 6) We still havent caught up with how the modern game is played and want to persist with have 15 1v1 battles instead of having a game plan. 7) Kealy's kick outs are aimless, really poor like- just kick it towards wherever the midfielders are standing.
And still we were not far off it- we have a lot of natural talent but thats not enough anymore
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Post by timmy on Mar 2, 2014 16:01:14 GMT
I've said here before and I'll say it again. Does Cian O'Neill know what he is doing. I have my doubts. Yet again no legs in last 15 mins. Thats 3 games this year and 2 Championship games last year (Cork & Dublin). Serious questions have to be asked.
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Post by seamo on Mar 2, 2014 16:11:40 GMT
I've said here before and I'll say it again. Does Cian O'Neill know what he is doing. I have my doubts. Yet again no legs in last 15 mins. Thats 3 games this year and 2 Championship games last year (Cork & Dublin). Serious questions have to be asked. I feel similarly. Puzzles me how he was linked with the top job in Kildare. His job title has always been and still is "conditioning coach"/"fitness coach" or something along those lines? Can't understand why it is him who seems to have assumed the no.2 role behind Eamon rather then Mickey or Diarmuid. If fitness/conditioning is his thing, then there is little he can contribute on matchday that Mickey or Diarmuid can't.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 17:21:05 GMT
I fear that Aidan O Mahoney's days are numbered.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 2, 2014 17:55:30 GMT
Bnright off on black card. Ref being inconsistent at best incompetent at worst Ref was actually technically correct as Moran didn't actually pull the player to the ground. The rule needs to be changed though as his act was more cynical than either Enrights or Griffins. With Griffin especially even though it was cynical in that it was a last ditch pull back and he probably deserved to go he was a bit unlucky in that he didn't pull Freeman to the ground. He pulled him back by the jersey but Freeman went down very easily (as most forwards would tend to do in fairness to him) so that didn't constitute a black card offense in my view. This issue was raised by a few posters when the rules were brought out in fairness.
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Post by whitefire on Mar 2, 2014 18:31:25 GMT
I fear that Aidan O Mahoney's days are numbered. I have it from a good source that he was very unsure about giving it another go this year. After today, he might as well quit now, nothing more to offer. Fouling and throwing himself down looking for frees that's all we saw today.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 2, 2014 19:02:45 GMT
I echo a lot of what I have read on here already. Mahony looks to be finished at this level or at least as a definite starter. Taking the ball into contact needlessly and losing it half the time. Mayo were cantering down the middle in the first half and he was left for dead. What the hell are Eamonn and the management team looking at in training if they put him out as the best option for number 6 today.
Also on the management team, we don't seem to have any idea or a pattern to play to. We knew mayo would run hard at us and we had nothing to counter it. No system at all has been in evidence since Eamonn,s appointment. This carry on of thinking we can out score team will have to stop as well. We might do with the Gooch on board but without him we need to base our tactics on having a solid defence. Our half forward line as a unit were poor today. The players all played well in patches but as a unit were not at the races.
Why the hell is our most dangerous forward in JOD playing about 50 yards from goal. I was impressed with O'Brien and cox to a lesser extent. Murphy in the corner looks a god prospect. I have given out about Kealy enough on these pages before but surely it's time to give some one else a run in the team. We were destroyed for breaks when the game got tight near the end.
Also thought the ref was very poor and was very inconsistent in his application of the Black card rule.
And on one final note, I don't understand the hype about Cian O'Neill. once again today with 15 mins to go we were dead on our feet. Same as in the championship last year. Also he is only the fitness coach why is he even on the line.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 2, 2014 19:56:59 GMT
We were destroyed for breaks when the game got tight near the end. We were destroyed in terms of winning breaking ball throughout the entire game not just at the end. I would say if they were any stats available they would look horrific. Half-back and half-forward lines were shockingly poor on this front. And on one final note, I don't understand the hype about Cian O'Neill. once again today with 15 mins to go we were dead on our feet. Same as in the championship last year. Also he is only the fitness coach why is he even on the line. There's also the fact that we used 6 subs (1 for the black card on Enright ; didnt use any sub for Griffin's black as all 6 subs had been made by then] Subs: F Fitzgerald for O'Mahony (36 mins), P Kilkenny for Enright (42 mins, black card), M Geaney for Casey (55 mins), J Sherwood for O'Sé (56 mins), J Buckley for Walsh (59 mins), B McGuire for Crowley 64 mins). Throw in the facts that Mayo scored 8 of the last 9 scores and Kerry didnt score from play in the last 20 minutes, you really have to wonder about the wisdom of the substitution policy/game management. Given it's Tyrone up next and the way they ground out an injury time win, if it's anyway tight heading into the last 10/15 minutes in the Park the next day, I wouldnt be too confident about our ability to win a tight game.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 2, 2014 20:19:46 GMT
We're ahead of where we were this time last year and Fitzie and Cian then went on to surprise a lot of us, me included. Mickey or Diarmuid wouldn't be cut off and while Attacking Wing Back tells one side of the story, the other side is that there is no reason why we can't claim Sam come September. Personally I don't think AO'M is up to the mark but then again I am not close to the situation and by comparison with those who are I couldn't mind mice at a cross roads. I am wary of reading a book from the back cover but having said all that, I'd respect any genuine comment as I'd like others to respect my view.
All I hope is that we don't end up in Div 2 as I was at Donegal vs Monaghan and neither team benefited from the encounter. It was nice enough but the buzz was lacking.
Slán go foil a chairde
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Post by Joxer on Mar 2, 2014 21:58:29 GMT
And on one final note, I don't understand the hype about Cian O'Neill. once again today with 15 mins to go we were dead on our feet. Same as in the championship last year. Also he is only the fitness coach why is he even on the line. There's also the fact that he is a selector. Anyway, I wouldn't be as negative as a lot on here. Yes, I agree Aidan is probably done at this level but you never know, Eamon obviously sees something in what hes doing in training. Entitled at any rate to a little more that being written off here but I doubt it'll worry him. The two biggest negatives today were (1) inability to compete effectively for breaking ball and (2) a kick out 'approach' that I would hesitate to call a strategy. Apart from those, I thought there were very good signs from both our forwards and most of our backs. I've had doubts about Shane Enright for some time...he somehow manages to end up on the wrong side of his man too often. Good to see Pa Kilkenny getting a run. Personally, Pa Kilkenny for Shane and Fionn Fitzgerald for Aidan are the two changes I'd make to the backs for the next day. Apart from that, we simply have to get in and around midfield for breaking ball and if its part of a kickout strategy, maybe Brian Kelly needs to get a run out in goals. It won't be the end of the world if we get relegated but a lot of football to be played yet and we're not down and out yet....All forwards contributed well and will continue to improve I believe. Already looking forward to next Sunday.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2014 22:21:08 GMT
I was impressed by Murphy and O Brien today. BJK did ok too. Aidan had me worried from the start. He doesn't look confident and doesn't look like he is enjoying it anymore. He has a lot of miles on the clock.
I am worried when I see the ball going near Shane Enright. He gets turned easily and us inclined to foul his man.
We were competitive for most of that game today but not scoring in last 20 minutes is a problem yet again.
Again Kealy kicked the ball down an opponents throat on a number of occasions.
Cox looked promising. He reminds me a bit of Kieran O Leary. What was wrong with Geaney that he didn't start at 14.
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