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Post by A.N. Other on Aug 4, 2014 23:09:09 GMT
I wouldn't fear Dublin at all. Cork kicked a massive amount of wides and almost dropped as many into the keepers hands. Dublin are strong on the counter attack though.
Fairly sure that rule been changed to 13 metres that's why there was so much confusion in the stand.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 5, 2014 7:30:36 GMT
The rule regarding the kick out was changed I think in 2013- the ball must travel 13 metres from the kicker to be legitimate.
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Post by veteran on Aug 5, 2014 21:21:01 GMT
A.N. Other thanks for your fine report.
What did Michael Burns do to merit a black card? I have always been impressed by this young man on the few occasions I have seen him play. He seems to be a genuine prospect.
It is always a worry when management see the need to drop players from key positions as they did for the Kildare match- centre half back and centre half forward. How did those two replacements play?
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Post by itscurling on Aug 5, 2014 21:49:39 GMT
The incident leading up to Burns' black card occurred on the 21 yd line on opposite side of field to the crowd (i.e. near the Kerry dug out).
To me Burns had shipped a number of heavy tackles , then fell sharply , grabbing his head. I suspect the referee believed this to be gamesmanship and an attempt to get draw the foul and / or get his marker carded and thus produced the black card. Burns is a fine player and stood out in the first half , albeit whilst Kildare focused on O'Se and Spillane.
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Post by sidelined on Aug 5, 2014 22:50:45 GMT
I wouldn't fear Dublin at all. Cork kicked a massive amount of wides and almost dropped as many into the keepers hands. Dublin are strong on the counter attack though. Fairly sure that rule been changed to 13 metres that's why there was so much confusion in the stand. what is it with cork footballers and their obsession with soloing?, time and time again yesterday they ran into trouble and ended up shooting from crazy angles. you are right about dublin, despite all the hype they are beatable.
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Post by A.N. Other on Aug 6, 2014 21:01:52 GMT
The incident leading up to Burns' black card occurred on the 21 yd line on opposite side of field to the crowd (i.e. near the Kerry dug out). To me Burns had shipped a number of heavy tackles , then fell sharply , grabbing his head. I suspect the referee believed this to be gamesmanship and an attempt to get draw the foul and / or get his marker carded and thus produced the black card. Burns is a fine player and stood out in the first half , albeit whilst Kildare focused on O'Se and Spillane. Burns threw his man to the ground off the ball, the ref let the play to continue and when it went out of play the linesman brought it to his attention which led to the black card. Felt it was harsh enough as Kerry men were being pulled and dragged at will. Having seen the Mayo highlights on tv I would fancy ourselves, likewise seeing Dublin beat a Cork team who must have had 16 or 17 wides and balls dropped into the keepers hands, I wouldn't fear them either despite all the hype. Can't comment on Donegal but they are quietly going about there business and easily dispatching teams. This is there to be won and here's hoping all the panel will get through the Minor Championship unscathed.
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Post by northkerryman11 on Aug 9, 2014 20:34:18 GMT
some great prospects for the future on our minor team.
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Post by brigid on Aug 10, 2014 13:31:01 GMT
Re comments on Micheal Burns. He has undoubted ability to progress to a higher level but based on comments here he must check his behaviour. Opposition players will quickly become aware of his weak points. I did not see any games this year but the following is an extract of what I wrote last year on what I saw in the Kerry V Tyrone game. (Kerry Minors 2013, 5/8/13). "Kerry were still 2 points ahead when an incident took place at the Hogan Stand side and just inside the Kerry half. After the main incident broke up, Miceal Burns got involved with 3 Tyrone players. Nothing much happened between the players but I feel that Burns should have walked away instead of trying to play the tough man. Kerry were now falling into the Tyrone trap of not concentrating on football with the result that Tyrone now had Kerry rattled. Should the team management have warned them that this might happen? Tyrone who were now short 2 players got the 2 points to draw the game and won easily in extra time."
It is only for his own, and Kerry's good, that Burns concentrates on his undoubted ability as a footballer. And I have every confidence that the 2014 management will assist him in this.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 12, 2014 16:30:44 GMT
Burns is a sure thing for the Seniors if he keeps progressing. Saw the highlights on TG4 last night, they seemend to show far more of Kildare's scores than Kerry's but both goals were well taken, especially O' Sé's.
Dublin appear to be beatable if Kerry do meet them.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 12, 2014 16:50:07 GMT
No such thing as a sure thing when it comes to progressing from underage to senior - there have been dozens of talented minors that do not make it. Still remember Barry John Walsh's performance against Offaly in the QF a few years ago and he was a class apart and looked a sure thing for a long senior career - he struggled to make it and is gone travelling. Go back over the years and it happens time and again. Let Burns develop and enjoy his football without the pressure of such accolades at this stage. Minors played well enough to beat Kildare - but poorly enough to be able to learn a few important lessons. As well as the black card incident we lost an easy scoring free to a hop ball for retaliation. In a close game this could be costly and needs to be highlighted by mgt.
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Post by tommynk on Aug 14, 2014 21:18:18 GMT
What winning underage titles or at least being involved at the later stages gives young players is invaluable,it gives them a taste of success that should encourage them to stick at it. Also they are involved for longer in the set up when the team stays in to the later stages,giving them more coaching and keeping them on the straight and narrow at a very impressionable time in their lives.
Great to see confidence in the underage players and minor set up again in Kerry. I always suspected that Jack was attracted back by what he saw coming through.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 15, 2014 9:33:19 GMT
One would think that having teams involved in the latter stages of the Championship would be a bonus - looking at the statistics would tend to support this. Of the four senior counties in this years Semis only Donegal have had a lack of underage success since 2002. Kerry minors lead the way with 10 semi final appearances since 02, Mayo have 7 with Dublin and Tyrone having 4 each. This year is only the second minor SF appearance by Donegal since 02. Based on the stats Kerry should be bringing through more players. Also interesting to note that only Dublin and Mayo have minor winning teams (once each) since 02. Final stat that is noteworthy - there have been 10 different winners of the minor championship since 02 with Tyrone the only team to with multiple wins (3) in that period. Thurles QF program listed the results quoted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 14:33:10 GMT
Whatever happens I think have done well this year and Jack has done a good job . They have played very attractive attacking Football and even if you dont win it all its good to see them playing well and you can also see that players like Shane Ryan , Matthew Flaherty , Barry O'Sullivan , Miceal Burns , and Killian Spillane will be playing for Kerry in the not too distant future . Plus you will get 5 or 6 more playing at u21 for a couple of years . I also think that watching Underage games and talking to people around the County Kerry will be strong again next year .
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Post by mandad on Aug 20, 2014 11:33:02 GMT
Heard that there is a serious doubt about Tomás O'Sé. Picked up a knock in a challenge game.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 20, 2014 12:10:52 GMT
Also reports of a bug/virus in the Mayo camp.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 20, 2014 12:52:53 GMT
Also reports of a bug/virus in the Mayo camp. LOL mind games nothing else I'm sure
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 20, 2014 12:57:44 GMT
One would think that having teams involved in the latter stages of the Championship would be a bonus - looking at the statistics would tend to support this. Of the four senior counties in this years Semis only Donegal have had a lack of underage success since 2002. Kerry minors lead the way with 10 semi final appearances since 02, Mayo have 7 with Dublin and Tyrone having 4 each. This year is only the second minor SF appearance by Donegal since 02. Based on the stats Kerry should be bringing through more players. Also interesting to note that only Dublin and Mayo have minor winning teams (once each) since 02. Final stat that is noteworthy - there have been 10 different winners of the minor championship since 02 with Tyrone the only team to with multiple wins (3) in that period. Thurles QF program listed the results quoted. I think Kerry's minor teams are supplying enough talent. Looking at the senior squad it is full of young players. I found the minors a bit naive in last year's semi though. They should have beaten Tyrone but they let it slip away. They were not prepared for the physicality and the roughness Tyrone bring and played more like they would in the Kerry championship. Though they need too fit into the Kerry shtyle and adhere to the mantra they also need to take the next step forwards. After all we haven't really won that many minor and U21 titles lately.
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Post by glengael on Aug 21, 2014 10:43:56 GMT
When will the team be named?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 21, 2014 12:19:09 GMT
Kerry Minor Team to be named on Thursday night The Kerry Minor Team to play Mayo in the Electric Ireland GAA Football semi final in Croke Park on Sunday next will be announced after training on Thursday night and will be posted on the Kerry GAA Website on Thursday evening around 8:30 pm approx.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 13:10:02 GMT
Yeah Tonight
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 21, 2014 14:44:07 GMT
One would think that having teams involved in the latter stages of the Championship would be a bonus - looking at the statistics would tend to support this. Of the four senior counties in this years Semis only Donegal have had a lack of underage success since 2002. Kerry minors lead the way with 10 semi final appearances since 02, Mayo have 7 with Dublin and Tyrone having 4 each. This year is only the second minor SF appearance by Donegal since 02. Based on the stats Kerry should be bringing through more players. Also interesting to note that only Dublin and Mayo have minor winning teams (once each) since 02. Final stat that is noteworthy - there have been 10 different winners of the minor championship since 02 with Tyrone the only team to with multiple wins (3) in that period. Thurles QF program listed the results quoted. I think Kerry's minor teams are supplying enough talent. Looking at the senior squad it is full of young players. I found the minors a bit naive in last year's semi though. They should have beaten Tyrone but they let it slip away. They were not prepared for the physicality and the roughness Tyrone bring and played more like they would in the Kerry championship. Though they need too fit into the Kerry shtyle and adhere to the mantra they also need to take the next step forwards. After all we haven't really won that many minor and U21 titles lately. Would have to agree - was very disappointing watching them lose to Tyrone in a game that they should have won - felt the line let things sit when one or two of the players were not delivering on the day. Players were on the field at the crunch that clearly had not delivered on the day - good players in normal circumstances but they were off the pace for whatever reason. All history now and very hopeful for this crop - really liked the way they found another gear in the Munster final when Cork came back at them. Will be interesting to see how many make the leap to senior grade - some real prospects.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 21, 2014 14:46:52 GMT
Minors and Seniors in SF and Juniors in the Final - only the U21's not firing.
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Post by townend on Aug 21, 2014 15:49:58 GMT
kerry football could do with a minor all ireland we are way to long without one.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 21, 2014 18:25:44 GMT
Winning a minor title does not guarantee senior success but it is often an ingredient in success. Looking at the stats for the last twenty years. Only Galway(2) and Donegal(1) have won a senior title without having even had a minor team in a final in the preceeding ten years. Dublin (2011), Kerry and Armagh have won senior titles without winning the minor title in the preceeding 10 years. In total 8 (40%) of senior titles have gone to teams that did not have successful winning minors in the ten years prior to lifting Sam.
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 21, 2014 19:28:36 GMT
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 22, 2014 13:06:10 GMT
Good luck to the Minors Sunday, hope enough of the Kerry crowd come in early to support them, they deserve it.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 22, 2014 16:18:42 GMT
Good luck to the Minors Sunday, hope enough of the Kerry crowd come in early to support them, they deserve it. Maybe you should be hoping enough stay on to watch the seniors in the second game!!!!!!!
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Post by seamo on Aug 22, 2014 20:39:22 GMT
Numbers at Irish dancing lessons are set to soar thanks to Tomas O Se!!!! lol All the footballing fathers will have the sons getting fitted for dancing shoes to make great footballers out of them!!
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Post by sidelined on Aug 22, 2014 23:04:37 GMT
as with minors its all on the day. who will perform , who will get the breaks and who wants it more. some semi over the years have been truly dire affairs with the fear of losing out weighing the will to win. Kerry are a good footballing side, the west Kerry boys have expirence of winning Hogan cup in croke park which is a huge advantage. also subs have gotten a lot of game time in this campaign so they will slot right in and maintain balance of the team. physical size of the backs only concern but if forwards click should have winning of game. on big stage it time for killian to really show his talent for all to see and take the game to the mayos backs. seemed to play within himself up to now.
best of luck to all involved on sunday
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Post by buck02 on Aug 23, 2014 18:57:15 GMT
This has the potential to be a cracking game, hopefully the experience of Jack and the PCD players will be enough to pull us through. I was concerned about how Cork got through the centre of our defence very easily at time and I'm sure that wont have gone unnoticed and wont be allowed to happen again tomorrow.
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