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Post by legendz on Mar 25, 2013 20:03:18 GMT
A motion passed in congress at the weekend to reduce the McCarthy Cup from the current 15 to 13 between 2014 to 2016. While the Ring winners in 2014 will be able to take part in a play-off to join the top tier, it appears the 2013 Christy Ring winners have nothing to play for. No play-off or any promotion possibility.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 25, 2013 20:48:07 GMT
Kerry certainly can't complain over this anyway...
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 25, 2013 21:10:29 GMT
Its been worthless for a wile now since the GAA stopped teams from going up and down. If they had there way they would get rid of it altogether
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Post by legendz on Mar 25, 2013 22:01:32 GMT
Its been worthless for a wile now since the GAA stopped teams from going up and down. If they had there way they would get rid of it altogether They didn't stop teams going up, just gave them the option, did they want to join the provincial championships or not as in Kerry's case in 2011. It seems to many teams joined the Leinster Championship for their liking, there's 10 teams in the Leinster Championship this year. I thought the Kerry GAA board's request in 2011 that the Christy Ring winner be allowed join the McCarthy qualifiers was a more sensible suggestions. It'd have allowed the CR winners test the waters in the qualifiers as to whether they should join the top tier or not. |
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Post by jerryewe on Mar 25, 2013 22:03:05 GMT
The problem was thay stopped teams being relegated from Liam McCarthy which led to situation where Carlow and Westmeath were promoted with no team dropping down. This meant teams would not need to improve to reach the level of a team coming down.
Always seems a problem with the major hurling counties that they are happy for themselves to stay at their best while doing nothing to develop other counties. A few years ago when the leagues were restructured the Wexford manager was complaining that they would not be facing the top teams every year. They would be facing the top counties every year if they improved and became one of the top counties.
Sorry if I took the thread a little off topic but its something that always bugs me
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Post by legendz on Mar 25, 2013 22:26:20 GMT
The problem was thay stopped teams being relegated from Liam McCarthy which led to situation where Carlow and Westmeath were promoted with no team dropping down. This meant teams would not need to improve to reach the level of a team coming down. Always seems a problem with the major hurling counties that they are happy for themselves to stay at their best while doing nothing to develop other counties. A few years ago when the leagues were restructured the Wexford manager was complaining that they would not be facing the top teams every year. They would be facing the top counties every year if they improved and became one of the top counties. Sorry if I took the thread a little off topic but its something that always bugs me I accept that point that teams were not going down. At the same time, if teams want to play at the top table, should they be denied? Antrim wanted to bring in an amendment at the weekend that if a county from the qualifying group, namely Carlow, Antrim, Laois, Westmeath and London at present, were to make a provincial semi-final, that they would be given protection from relegation as well. It's a fair call that there should be set criteria as to how teams can earn their spurs on the field of play to join the elite group. The qualifying group will start out as 5 in 2014, it'll be 4 in 2015 and finally 3 in 2016. The GAA say the move is to protect the integrity of the championship. In a group of 3 teams, the two teams playing on the last day could fix a result that leaves the team with two games already played bottom of the group. |
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Post by jerryewe on Mar 26, 2013 12:26:19 GMT
I accept that point that teams were not going down. At the same time, if teams want to play at the top table, should they be denied? Antrim wanted to bring in an amendment at the weekend that if a county from the qualifying group, namely Carlow, Antrim, Laois, Westmeath and London at present, were to make a provincial semi-final, that they would be given protection from relegation as well. It's a fair call that there should be set criteria as to how teams can earn their spurs on the field of play to join the elite group. The qualifying group will start out as 5 in 2014, it'll be 4 in 2015 and finally 3 in 2016. The GAA say the move is to protect the integrity of the championship. In a group of 3 teams, the two teams playing on the last day could fix a result that leaves the team with two games already played bottom of the group. By all means have teams competing at highest level but they have to earn it by winning Christy Ring with the weakest team in Liam McCarthy dropping down. The same applies down to Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher as well. Just look at the Senior intermediate, Junior and Novice championships for what I mean by this. To move up a level you have to win trophy below |
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Post by legendz on Mar 26, 2013 19:39:58 GMT
By all means have teams competing at highest level but they have to earn it by winning Christy Ring with the weakest team in Liam McCarthy dropping down. The same applies down to Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher as well. Just look at the Senior intermediate, Junior and Novice championships for what I mean by this. To move up a level you have to win trophy below If you win you're Intermediate, Junior or Novice championship you earn promotion to the next tier. With the Christy Ring, if they win, they have to go into a play-off. I don't know of any club championship where any club is protected from relegation to a tier below, except for divisional teams of course which is different. The GAA have decided 10 counties are immune from relegation. Where's the fairness in that? |
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