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Post by southward on Mar 21, 2015 19:50:58 GMT
I must be feeling particularly biased today because I can't see any dig by KD. I don't think by the spirit of the rules is it a black card - it is dangerous more than cynical. However by the letter of the rules I can't see how it isn't black. But again this is all wasted energy. I think we have been well-served in Kerry by accepting sanctions - let others get caught up in these appeals while we prepare properly...unless of course there was a blatant mistake, not a technicality, by the referee. Have we though? How? Seriously, I don't see it. All I see is other counties getting away with everything while our lads serve suspensions. Where's the payback for that? Supposing Murphy picks up another soft black in an All Ireland Q/F or S/F; that's going to be really costly. If Keegan, Bastick, Connolly, A.Lynch etc keep getting off, I don't see why we should be so noble about it. What good is it doing us? I say let's stop being mugs here and start appealing everything.
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Post by southward on Mar 21, 2015 19:54:27 GMT
Btw, does anyone know if the slate is wiped if you get a suspension after a third black? Or is it a rolling 12-month lookback?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2015 20:53:59 GMT
I must be feeling particularly biased today because I can't see any dig by KD. I don't think by the spirit of the rules is it a black card - it is dangerous more than cynical. However by the letter of the rules I can't see how it isn't black. But again this is all wasted energy. I think we have been well-served in Kerry by accepting sanctions - let others get caught up in these appeals while we prepare properly...unless of course there was a blatant mistake, not a technicality, by the referee. Have we though? How? Seriously, I don't see it. All I see is other counties getting away with everything while our lads serve suspensions. Where's the payback for that? Supposing Murphy picks up another soft black in an All Ireland Q/F or S/F; that's going to be really costly. If Keegan, Bastick, Connolly, A.Lynch etc keep getting off, I don't see why we should be so noble about it. What good is it doing us? I say let's stop being mugs here and start appealing everything. I give you the example of Lee Keegan.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 22, 2015 0:51:51 GMT
The disciplinary process in our beloved sport is a complete joke
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Post by fitz on Mar 22, 2015 12:59:02 GMT
The appeals process is a laughter lounge. Is there a hybrid black/ yellow card? Ffs. The offence was a card unquestionably. I think the foul was cynical. I think Dublin should have left it stand, BUT while the appeals process remains a happy hunting ground overturning refereeing decisions, you can't blame Dublin for their submission. I think the red card decisions are the key justification for an appeals committee as they cause the most significant negative impact to to a team on the day and notably if relevant the next day(s). The appeals process although righting wrongs undermines referees authority. Thus it gives with one hand and takes with the other.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 23, 2015 11:48:41 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 23, 2015 22:09:47 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 23, 2015 22:15:42 GMT
could those of you who can spot Donaghy throwing a dig state the exact second this happens as I can spot it at all still waiting!!
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 23, 2015 22:21:52 GMT
Hope you arent holding your breath
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 23, 2015 22:23:36 GMT
It is a huge blow to Dublin. This injury is becoming far too common................
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 23, 2015 23:12:20 GMT
A big blow is right.
Watching the rugby on Saturday it struck me that they play on heavy ground and they don't seem to get this injury as much or is it just that we don't hear about it so much. Off the top of my head I cant recall an Irish rugby player getting it
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 23, 2015 23:14:17 GMT
Christopher Joyce out for rest of season with torn cruciate
Tuesday, March 10, 2015
Cork hurler Christopher Joyce is to miss the rest of the season after tearing his cruciate ligament in action on Saturday evening.
Joyce was substituted seven minutes into Cork’s league win over Dublin having fallen awkwardly on his right knee and scan results yesterday revealed he had damaged his cruciate ligament.
The 23-year old, who lined out at full-back in Cork’s three league games this spring, will today meet with an orthopaedic surgeon to discuss a surgery date. First-time cruciate victims face a minimum nine months on the sideline.
Joyce’s injury woe is the latest in a string of setbacks for the Cork set-up. Pa Cronin will sit out the remainder of the league following surgery to correct a torn tendon in his hand, while Damien Cahalane is sidelined for up to four weeks with a knee injury.
Cork selector Johnny Crowley said Joyce represented a massive loss to their league and championship aspirations.
“I am absolutely gutted for Christopher, it’s terrible news both for him and the squad,” he said.
“Christopher is an integral part of our set-up. He was an extremely hard-worker, a great team player.
“He was your model GAA player and he was going very well for us this year.
“I thought it was serious on Saturday night because Christopher is not a man that goes down easily.
“Dr Con [Murphy] feared it might be the cruciate on Saturday night and now our worst fears are after being realised.
“I am gutted for the young man. That is him more than likely gone for the season. “The injuries are starting to mount now with Pa (Cronin) and Damien (Cahalane) already out. And Bill (Cooper) already had problems with his toe this year.”
Stephen McDonnell deputised ably for Joyce in Croke Park and Crowley said the loss of the Na Piarsaigh hurler would open the door for one of his team-mates to nail down a starting berth in the Cork full-back line come championship time .
“This is why you have a panel of 31. Such is sport that someone will benefit from Christopher’s misery.
“The door opens now for someone else to step in.”
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Post by buck02 on Mar 24, 2015 11:55:59 GMT
Its a considerable blow to Dublin as O Gara offers them something different to all of their other forwards. It probably makes them a bit more predictable in their forward play without him.
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Mar 24, 2015 12:35:17 GMT
Very sorry for EOG, but in football terms methinks Dubs are gaining more than they lose with Ciarán Kilkenny, back this year from that same accursed injury
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Post by tpo on Mar 24, 2015 12:55:26 GMT
Would think EOG is a terrible blow to Dublin,don't have another player like him. Strong, physical, and can break tackles. Good luck to him on his recovery
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 24, 2015 13:20:23 GMT
EOG is a bigger lose than C.Kilkenny. Outside of Paddy Andrews Dublin don't have a physical presence at 14.
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Post by animal on Mar 24, 2015 14:16:51 GMT
He is a regular for Gavin so undoubtedly a loss to them. He may not be as silky as those around him but he can be effective with his physicality. There also an unpredictability about him. Hope the recovery goes well.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 24, 2015 17:34:36 GMT
Henry Shefflin set to confirm Kilkenny retirement Updated: Tuesday, 24 Mar 2015 16:37 |
Henry Shefflin is set to bring the curtain down on one of the greatest hurling careers of all time at a press conference in Kilkenny tomorrow. The Kilkenny legend won his third All-Ireland club title with Ballyhale Shamrocks last week and said afterwards that he would soon be making a decision on inter-county retirement.
“I can’t put it off any longer," he told RTÉ Sport. "I have been in the privileged position to be able to keep pushing it off because we did so well with the club. “I am very happy with where I am at so it’s just make my mind up time.” “It’s the perfect platform; to win an All-Ireland, a third with your club, but then you’re saying to yourself that it’s the end of March so the season is nearly over - it’s really rocking on,” explained Shefflin. “I suppose the decision I have to make is whether or not I am going to go back with Kilkenny and it’s a decision I am going to make very quickly.” The press conference will take place tomorrow at noon at Langton's Hotel in Kilkenny. Shefflin stands as one of the greatest hurlers of all time, with 10 All-Ireland medals, 13 Leinster titles, five national league titles and 11 All Stars. He has been named Hurler of the Year three times. Injury hampered his involvement in Kilkenny’s 2014 league campaign, and though he returned in time for the Championship, he was limited to appearances off the bench, including an appearance in the final. The Ballyhale Shamrocks player made his inter-county debut with the Cats in 1999 and has been a key part of Kilkenny’s glittering success since then. After a string of serious injuries, Shefflin came back to help Brian Cody’s side clinch the Liam MacCarthy Cup again last September. He was introduced in the final quarter of last year’s win, providing a lift to Kilkenny as they tried to see off the determined challenge of Tipperary. Glittering career A product of St Kieran’s school in Kilkenny, which has produced many of the county’s finest hurlers over the years, Shefflin was also a decorated colleges player, who won two Fitzgibbon Cup titles with Waterford IT. He burst on to the inter-county scene in 1999, and although Kilkenny were pipped by Cork in that year’s All-Ireland final, Shefflin scored five points in a memorable display. A year later, he was part of the Cats team that thumped Offaly 5-15 to 1-14, scoring 2-02 as Kilkenny dominated. In 2002 he was again top-scorer for Kilkenny with 1-07 when they beat Clare in the final. In 2003 Shefflin scored six points as Kilkenny beat Cork in the final, as the two counties slugged it out in a rivalry that dominated hurling in the first half of the last decade. He was Kilkenny’s top-scorer in 2004 with five points when they were soundly beaten by the Rebels. In 2006 he was part of the Kilkenny side that denied Cork a famous three-in-a-row, scoring eight points as the Cats came out on top. Shefflin’s imperious display that year was rewarded with an All Star, several player of the year awards and the RTÉ Sport Sportsperson of the Year award. In the years that followed, Shefflin was a towering figure in the Kilkenny side that secured a historic four titles in a row, scoring 1-2 as captain in the 2007 final, eight points in the 2008 final, and 1-08 in the 2009 final. In 2010 injury hit Shefflin, when he tore his cruciate ligament in that year’s All-Ireland SHC semi-final win over Cork, and looked certain to miss the final. Shefflin underwent extraordinary treatment with Limerick-based physiotherapist Gerard Hartmann, and made a remarkable recovery, training with Kilkenny within three weeks of the semi-final, despite cruciate injuries usually requiring several months on the sideline. However, disaster struck on the day of the final when he was forced off in obvious discomfort after just 12 minutes. Tipperary would go on to deny Kilkenny’s ‘Drive for Five’. Kilkenny and Shefflin returned to All-Ireland glory in 2011, beating Tipperary 2-17 to 1-16 in the final, a new outstanding rivalry in inter-county hurling by now firmly established. Shefflin scored seven points on the day, and secured his tenth 10th All Star that season. A year later he picked up his 11th All Star, in a season where Kilkenny beat Galway in the All-Ireland SHC final replay. Shefflin scored 12 points in the first final game, and nine points in the replay. A stress fracture to his foot curtailed Shefflin’s involvement in the 2013 championship. When he missed the game against Offaly, it was the first of the 62 games Kilkenny had by then played under Brian Cody that Shefflin missed. The injury hampered his involvement in Kilkenny’s 2014 league campaign, and though he returned in time for the Championship, he was limited to appearances off the bench, including an appearance in the final. He said that a substitute role was not ideal but paid tribute to his team-mates. “It is difficult because everyone wants to be playing," he said at the time.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 24, 2015 20:05:38 GMT
could those of you who can spot Donaghy throwing a dig state the exact second this happens as I can spot it at all still waiting!! Rashers and Ciarrai Abu were the eagle eyed ones to spot Donaghys dig and hopefully they will clear up the confusion for us by telling us the second on the video that it happens. I had another look they now and I still cant spot it.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 24, 2015 22:15:06 GMT
I heard today that Cormac Costello has also picked up a significant injury.
Jack mc Caffrey also has a foot injury. In a division 2 match against O Tooles he lost his boot and then he received a deliberate stamp on the unprotected foot. He had a deep gash. Off the ball and referee didnt see it.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 24, 2015 22:55:44 GMT
Terrible blow to EOG, and also his brother, who just recently suffered the same injury. For us Eoghan has been a great leader and warrior on the team and a much better footballer than given credit for, a smart player. As others have said, he brings something significant that no other plan can and that offers hope against tighter defences.
MM and Sullys, the dig is in the video as posted by somebody else above my previous post. Not sure what you think KD is doing as he throws the fist in, perhaps you see it as a legitimate attempt to break the hold of Bastick, though at that stage DB is the one being held down, KD has his head free I think.
Stupid foul by Denis of course, lucky to get off the black. Red card offence by KD. No need for Kerry to change their angelic non-appealing policy here as he wasn't punished.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 24, 2015 23:41:53 GMT
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 25, 2015 21:53:26 GMT
about 6 or 7. Wasn't a bad dig in fairness. Just wanted to point it out seeing as all the talk was about Denis the Menace
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Post by southward on Mar 25, 2015 22:09:00 GMT
about 6 or 7. Wasn't a bad dig in fairness. Just wanted to point it out seeing as all the talk was about Denis the Menace Dig at 6 or 7 ? Will ya stop! Anyway, that particular conversation wasn't about Bastick as such; it was about the merits or otherwise of appealing stuff.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 26, 2015 10:52:23 GMT
Still, it was rather hurtful. Just because he's a big guy with a somewhat rough-hewn face.........
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Post by dano on Mar 27, 2015 1:02:30 GMT
Mr Tierney. There was no dig. He deserved one but there was no dig. End of story.
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Post by tman59 on Mar 27, 2015 10:36:33 GMT
Very sad news about Eoin O Gara and his brother , These are the defects of Gaelic Football. Thats Eoin gone for the bones of a year now. A lot of people dislike the player but you hate seeing these things happening to young footballers.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 27, 2015 23:01:31 GMT
Very sad news about Eoin O Gara and his brother , These are the defects of Gaelic Football. Thats Eoin gone for the bones of a year now. A lot of people dislike the player but you hate seeing these things happening to young footballers. Why in the name o Jaysus would alot of people dislike EOG??
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 27, 2015 23:10:45 GMT
Cos he is a bootboy
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 28, 2015 8:52:23 GMT
Well, he looks like one. But one crucial factor disqualifies him - he's a Ssider. Worse, plays for................Kilmacud!
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