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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 27, 2015 21:36:16 GMT
"Hurling in Kerry" and "football in Kilkenny" don't really belong in the same sentence. Provokes me to offer analogy with the remote goal, audience amusement. The target in each case is to summit the mountain, Everest, which equates to Sam/Liam. Kerry have a good team, experienced climbers, getting more acclimatized with altitude, base camp guaranteed, heading for camp 1 above base. Kilkenny, arrive in Nepal with shorts, runners and sun cream. Bullheaded they intend to walk to the summit, in one trip. Is that comparison gap wide enough? This was 3 years ago. We know that Gaelic football is as far down the priority list in Kilkenny as tiddlywinks is in other counties, but the scale of last night’s under-21 defeat to Louth must still have come as a shock to the system. In Ballyragget last night, the Louth under-21 footballers subjected the Cats to a beating that the Kilkenny hurlers would struggle to inflict on the weakest counties, racking up a whopping 6-34 in a 50-point victory over their Leinster rivals. The Wee County led by a barely believable 1-21 to no score at half time and although they scored just over half as many points after the break, they more than made up for it in front of goal by raising the green flag five times in the second half. The Louth men got plenty of target practise in a ridiculously one-sided affair, but it was hardly of any use in terms of preparing them for their meeting with Longford in the next round. The Kilkenny team that did take to the field last night deserve a huge amount of sympathy as they were forced to endure the humiliating ordeal for the entire 60 minutes, with reports suggesting that 11 of the panel failed to show up and that they were left with the bare 15 players. The Louth lads can hardly be blamed for the slaughter; they were only beating what was in front of them after all, but it raises serious questions about the apparent disregard for Gaelic Football in Kilkenny, whose senior side are subjected to regular heavy beatings - if not on the same scale - in the National Football League, and don’t compete at all in the senior championship.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 28, 2015 9:02:13 GMT
"Hurling in Kerry" and "football in Kilkenny" don't really belong in the same sentence. I am always amazed at how clinical KK forwards are at kicking the sliother into the net. One on one with the keeper and they never miss unlike forwards from other hurling counties.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 2, 2015 19:50:24 GMT
Changes to the format of the All-Ireland football qualifiers could be on their way after new GAA president Aogan O Fearghail promised to consult with counties who are unhappy with the current arrangements.
However, the provincial championships will remain intact, despite the inherent inequality brought about by numerical differences in the four areas.
O Fearghail, who has become the first Cavan man to hold the GAA presidency, is a steadfast supporter of the traditional provincial system, believing that it remains the best starting point for the championships.
"Counties are very comfortable with the provincial championships. That has come across to me very clearly from my dealings with them. The provincials have served the Association well for a long time and can continue to do so," he said.
There appears to be less satisfaction with the football qualifiers, which are heading into their 15th season.
"Many of the counties are not comfortable with the format of the qualifiers and we will take note of that. I don't have a white rabbit to pull out of a hat on this one but I certainly think it is an area where we will listen to people and look for good proposals to work on," he said
While the new president is convinced that the provincial system must remain as the cornerstone of the football championship, there's growing unease in many quarters over its efficiency. Leinster attempted to change the rules for running its campaign at Saturday's Congress but came up just short with a proposal which would have enabled them to run the early stages on a round-robin basis.
With Dublin seeking their 10th title in 11 years this summer, there's unease in Leinster over the wide divergence in standards.
The Leinster Council believe that the competition would benefit from introducing a round-robin system in the initial stages but are precluded from doing so by rule. Their proposal to amend that regulations won on a 62-38 per cent vote, but required a two-thirds majority to succeed.
Warned
In the course of the debate, GAA director-general Paraic Duffy had warned that adding a round robin to any provincial championship would further reduce the time available for club games.
The proposal to complete all club competitions in the calendar year was not on the Congress agenda - it will be dealt with by Central Council - but it remains a big challenge, which O Fearghail is facing in the early part of his presidency.
He said that counties would consider all aspects of the plan in detail and that Central Council would respond to the feedback.
Duffy said the matter had been discussed by Central Council on Friday night and it's now planned to engage with all the counties. He accepted that squeezing all club championships into the calendar year, as opposed to the current system where the All-Ireland semi-finals and finals are played in February-March, posed challenges but insists they can be worked through.
"To be fair to dual counties, they have a bigger issue than some others. We are going to re-start the process and every county will be asked to outline what the problems are, as they see them. This may take a big longer but everybody, certainly on the Management Committee, is committed to the calendar year idea. I feel we can do this but will take a lot more work," he said.
While Congress 2015 certainly won't be recalled for great oratory and passionate interventions, it did make a number of significant rule changes. However, it says much for the sanitised direction modern-day Congresses have taken that the most heated debate of Saturday's marathon session in the Slieve Russell Hotel, Ballyconnell arose from a proposal to cut the number of overseas delegates allowed at the annual get-together.
The diaspora united in an impressive show of strength to oppose the plan and were enthusiastically supported by former GAA president Joe McDonagh, who quoted from George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' as he fought for perceived equality for all units, wherever they were based.
Speaking on behalf of Central Council, which proposed the motion, Duffy insisted that no slight on overseas clubs was intended. It was eventually decided to refer the motion back to Central Council. One suspects that it won't resurface any time soon.
The Hurling 20/20 committee, represented by chairman Liam Sheedy had a fairly good day, steering through a number of adjustments, including the one v one hurling penalty, the introduction of a formal advantage rule and automatic promotion to the Liam MacCarthy Cup tier for the Christy Ring Cup winners.
However, their attempt to allow a replacement for a hurler sent off on a second yellow card, suffered a predictable fate, losing out on a 69-31 per cent vote.
The proposal to limit to three the number of defenders allowed on the line for close-in frees, other than penalties, was also beaten.
As expected, the proposed introduction of a clock-hooter system to end championship games was scrapped, following Central Council's strong opposition.
Somewhat bizarrely, nobody spoke in favour of pressing ahead with the new mechanism despite the fact that Congress had twice voted for its introduction in 2010 and 2013.
Most of the Minor Review Committee's key proposals to ease the burden on younger players were accepted. These include preventing U-18s from playing at U-21 or senior inter-county level and U-17s from playing at adult club level.
Committee chairman Michael Martin made an impressive presentation on the need to provide greater protection for young players from the threat of injury and burnout and was backed by several speakers.
However, Kilkenny secretary Jimmy Walsh expressed reservations about preventing U-17s being involved at adult club level.
Attempts to restrict the handpass in football were shot down. Tipperary's proposal that a player who receives the ball from a handpass must play it away with the boot lost on a 73-27 per cent vote, after which Clare withdrew a broadly similar motion.
Clare pressed ahead with a call to give Central Council the power to rent county grounds for non-GAA sports, similar to what applies with Croke Park, but it was shot down.
John Greene (Longford) and Niall Erskine (Donegal) were elected as GAA trustees.
Key Congress motions
Passed
Abandon plans to introduce a clock/hooter to end championship games
It was due to come into effect for this year's championships. Introduce a one v one hurling penalty from the 20-metre line.
It will be in operation for this year's championships. Introduce an advantage rule in hurling, similar to football. The referee will have up to five seconds to decide if an advantage accrues to a fouled player. All players for senior and U-21 inter-county championships must be aged over 18 years. Players must be over 17 years before they can play at adult club level. County minors won't play in club adult leagues until their involvement in the All-Ireland championship is completed. Yellow card issued in normal time won't carry forward in extra-time.
Violation of the winter training ban for senior inter-county panels to be punished by the loss of home advantage for a League game. Squad lists (26) for senior inter-county championships must be released no later than 9am on the Thursday before a game. The starting 15 must be submitted to the referee no later than 20 minutes before a game. Hawk-Eye to be used at venues outside Croke Park, as decided by Central Council.
Christy Ring Cup winners to gain automatic promotion to the Liam MacCarthy Cup tier. Up to now, they had to play off against the lowest-ranked team in the MacCarthy Cup section.
Rejected
Allow a replacement in hurling for a player sent off on a second yellow. Restriction of the handpass in football. Tipperary proposed that a player who receives the ball from a handpass must play it away with the boot. Kildare proposed that when a goalkeeper receives the ball from a handpass, he should be required to kick it Extra-time to apply to in all championship games in all grades. If this rule were in place, it would have cost the GAA around €10m over the past three years. Introduce a black card in hurling.
In hurling, reduce from four to three the number of steps allowed with ball in hand. Tipperary argue it would produce a more open game. Inter-county U-21 championship games to have 35-minute halves.
Allow provincial councils to introduce a round-robin for senior inter-county football championships. That the size and mass of a hurling sliotar be increased. There was no support for the Clare proposal. There must be no propulsion of the ball by the non-striking hand when a handpass is being executed.
Allow Central Council to authorise the use of Croke Park and all county grounds for games other than those controlled by the GAA. This will not interfere with Ireland's bid to host the 2023 Rugby World Cup as GAA has already committed to making grounds available. The All-Ireland minor football quarter-finals be scrapped.
Deferred
That a concussion rule, similar to the blood sub regulation, be introduced for players who have serious head injuries. It will be reviewed by the GAA's medical experts, prior to drawing up appropriate protocols for all levels.
Indo Sport
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 3, 2015 21:36:00 GMT
Two Kerry companies are bidding for All-Ireland Inter-Firms glory this weekend with senior and junior titles on the radar for the local firms.
IN the senior final Liebherr Container Cranes in Killarney are looking to win back-to-back All-Ireland titles after being crowned Junior All-Ireland champions last year.
This year a star-studded team has made it all the way to the All-Ireland senior final and will play Medtronic of Galway on Friday next in Fossa at 4.30.
Medtronic are the current All-Ireland Senior Inter-Firm champions having beaten the Cork Gardaí in last year's final and boast several players from Corofin who recently secured their passage to the All-Ireland Club Final on St. Patricks Day.
Liebherr are bidding to win the All-Ireland Senior Inter-firm title for the first time in their history.
Liebherr Container Cranes overcame Analog/Stryker of Limerick in the Munster Final by 0-11 to 0-3, and then comprehensively beat St. Peter's Prison Officer's of Laois in the All-Ireland semi-final in an impressive performance at Lewis Road, Killarney. Liebherr led at the break 0-8 to 0-2 and went onto win by 2-19 to 2-5.
Among their players are Colin Myers (Fossa), Mike Moloney and Luke Quinn (Dr Crokes), Kevin Gorman (Kilcummin), Eoin Lawlor (Rathmore) and Daniel O'Shea (Currow).
Meanwhile, Temmler/Astellas play Citi Bank of Antrim in the All-Ireland junior Interfirm final on this Saturday JP O'Sullivan Park, Killorglin at 4pm.
Temmler/Astellas have played five games on their way to the final and being the only junior team in Kerry put them straight into the Munster campaign. Their first game was in the Munster quarter-final where they beat Shannon aerospace (Clare) in Rathkeale by 3-14 to 1-9, the goals from Paul McKenna, Kevin O'Brien and John Pollard
In the semi-final Temmler/Astellas played Eli Lilly of Cork in Macroom with early goals from Paul McKenna, Kevin O'Brien and Jerimiah Hayes proved to be the difference in a tight game when the Killorglin side won by 3-7 to 1-9.
In the Munster final they played Cork Teachers winning by 2-13 to 1-12, helped by goals from Paul McKenna and Colm O'Neill with some great work in defence by Shane Prendeville and Conor Breen.
In the All-Ireland semi-final they played Cloverhill Prison Officers in Listry in a game which ended in a draw of a scoreline of Temmler Astellas 1-9 Cloverhill Prison Officers 0-12 with the goal coming from Kevin O'Brien.Man of the match was Jason Browne the Temmler Astellas goalkeeper.
The replay - week later in Kildare - saw Temmler/Astellas win by 2-6 to 0-10 with a goal from the penalty from Paul McKenna and the second from Jerimiah Hayes.
This is a well balanced panel which includes Ger O'Connor, Thomas Walsh, Eamon Kissane, Daniel O'Loughlin, Donal O'Donoghue and Jerry Kelliher they will need top class performance to get over Citi Bank of Antrim who beat a well fancied Valeo team from Galway in the semi-final on their home pitch.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 3, 2015 22:08:53 GMT
Ian O'Riordan
Tue, Mar 3, 2015, 01:15 It’s now one year and 15 days since that cold February afternoon when the entire career of Colm “Gooch” Cooper flashed before his eyes – and everyone else close to Kerry football. For the days and months that followed, no one was entirely sure if his career would be extended any further.
Yet for several months now the 31-year-old Cooper has been back training – although not yet at the pace required for his return to intercounty football. “We did say mid-March initially, but it will be later than that now,” said manager Eamonn Fitzmaurice, speaking ahead of Kerry’s next meeting with old rivals Cork on Sunday.
“He’s just not ready yet. So I’m reluctant to put another date on it. When he’s ready he’s ready, and we’ll give him as much action as we can. Will it be before the end of March? I’m not sure. He wants to get going. He’s done a lot of individual work, and with some small groups, and that can be testing, because he wants to be back in the main group.”
Cooper’s long lay-off wasn’t helped by the fact not only had their 2014 captain ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament of his right knee he’d also torn the posterior cruciate ligament and fractured the kneecap itself.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 4, 2015 14:41:41 GMT
Ian O'Riordan Tue, Mar 3, 2015, 01:15 It’s now one year and 15 days since that cold February afternoon when the entire career of Colm “Gooch” Cooper flashed before his eyes – and everyone else close to Kerry football. For the days and months that followed, no one was entirely sure if his career would be extended any further. Yet for several months now the 31-year-old Cooper has been back training – although not yet at the pace required for his return to intercounty football. “We did say mid-March initially, but it will be later than that now,” said manager Eamonn Fitzmaurice, speaking ahead of Kerry’s next meeting with old rivals Cork on Sunday. “He’s just not ready yet. So I’m reluctant to put another date on it. When he’s ready he’s ready, and we’ll give him as much action as we can. Will it be before the end of March? I’m not sure. He wants to get going. He’s done a lot of individual work, and with some small groups, and that can be testing, because he wants to be back in the main group.” Cooper’s long lay-off wasn’t helped by the fact not only had their 2014 captain ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament of his right knee he’d also torn the posterior cruciate ligament and fractured the kneecap itself. You are famous on PROC Mickmack www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/articles/cit-in-kerry-college-merger-horror
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 5, 2015 20:20:42 GMT
Tyrone have named an unchanged side from the team that drew with Derry for their Allianz Football League clash with Dublin on Saturday evening in Croke Park (7pm). Tyrone: N Morgan; A McCrory, R McNamee, C McCarron; R McNabb, J McMahon, P Harte; C Cavanagh, P McNulty; T McCann, M Donnelly, B Tierney; D McCurry S Cavanagh (c), C McAliskey. Wexford hurler Andrew Shore comes straight into the team to play Limerick on Sunday at wing-back after having a 48-week ban for transfer irregularities rescinded at last week's GAA congress. Shore had received the ban from the Warwickshire County Board last November for playing with Coventry side Roger Casements in an All-Britain Junior Hurling Shield match when still registered with Dublin team Parnells. However, he went before the GAA's Reinstatement Committee last week, and they lifted the 24-year-old's ban. Conor McDonald also comes into the team at full-forward after recovering from injury while Eoin Moore (ankle) and Liam Og McGovern (quad) are sidelined. Wexford: M Fanning, L Ryan, M O'Hanlon (captain), C Kenny; P Foley, L Chin, A Shore; D Redmond, D O'Keeffe; J Guiney, D Waters, I Byrne; P Morris, C McDonald, P Doran. Galway have stuck with the same team that was due to play Laois in last week's postponed fixture for Sunday's trip to Down. Galway: M Breathnach; D Kyne, F Hanley, C Sweeney; P Varley, G Bradshaw, G O'Donnell; F O Curraoin, E Tierney; S Denvir, P Sweeney, D Comer; M Martin, A Varley, D Cummins.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2015 9:19:41 GMT
By Anne Lucey
Scores of Kerrymen working on rebuilding the Twin Towers site in New York feature in a radio programme due to be broadcast tomorrow.
Kingdom Rising tells the story of the men from Kerry who worked in concrete, steel, carpentry and architecture to rebuild Ground Zero and the 9/11 memorial after the terrorist attacks.
The Irish are synonymous with construction in the city.
“Back to when the unions started in New York, Kerry men had a strong presence in 18 A, the concrete union in New York,” said programme producer and research Audrey Galvin. “There were so many of them working in Tower 1, it was nicknamed ‘The Kerry tower’.”
Audrey uncovered the story through her cousin Paul Kenny, who works in security on the site, as well as through photographs which started appearing on Twitter.
The documentary was recorded in New York over five days last November.
It hears from Detective Tony Curtin, originally from Clounmacon in Listowel, now with the city’s Major Crimes Unit.
He had spent months at the site, in the investigation after 9/11 and also at Staten Island sifting throughout the debris, mainly for body parts.
Donal O’Sullivan, from Ballinskelligs, Co Kerry, is the owner of Navillus Construction, which won the concrete contract for the 9/11 memorial.
“The memorial is where the two towers stood, all the new buildings are outside of that,” said Mr O’Sullivan.
“We took it from the ground up, from the bottom to the plaza level, which is about 90 feet. We build the concrete work and the plaza.
“It was the biggest single contract and it was a major job for us,” he said.
The memorial was dedicated on September 11, 2011, in a ceremony attended by families of the victims.
Last year, a museum was dedicated at the site.
The radio programme hears from a number of eyewitnesses to 9/11, as well as those who joined in the recovery and rebuilding, including Paudie Spillane, from Spa in Killarney.
New York has been his home for 30 years and he now works as a carpenter on tower 3. “No matter what you touch on the basement there is still dust there,” he said, “probably human remains — in the back of your mind you never forget a day like that. We knew this site would be a part of history so a lot of guys from Kerry on the site, signed the last beam going up on tower 4.”
Audrey Galvin, meanwhile, said: “Kingdom Rising tells the stories of the men from Kerry who have worked on one of the most symbolic sites to terror and freedom in the world.
“What they built are meaningful tributes to what happened at Ground Zero and their handprints are part of the history here.”
The programme was completed with the support of the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, Sound and Vision Fund. It will be broadcast on Radio Kerry at 10am tomorrow.
© Irish Examiner Ltd. All rights reserved
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 16, 2015 22:46:44 GMT
Off topic but feel it belongs after the above post:
3 years ago myself and Mrs Rashers were in NYC. It happens that one of our all-time favourite films is The Apartment (1960, directed by Billy Wilder, starring Jack Lemmon, Shirley Maclaine). I had wondered about a bar in a particular scene in the film, and on the last night of our stay in the city, I found out that this scene was shot in a real bar and that it still existed.
We took ourselves off on the subway and walking to find the street, expecting to discover the bar to be a disappoin ting modernised place, or shut. There in the midst of huge office blocks and fancy hotels, on a boulevard as wide as O'Connell St, dwarfed by all around it, was a little old place called The Emerald.
Inside was almost exactly as in the film, 52 years before. It is described in the film script as "a local dime and dust Irish bar", exactly what it was. To add to our joy at the discovery, the barman turned out to be a very friendly chap from 'Jersey', and then after a while there appeared one of the owners, who was a Kerrywoman living 40 years in NY. And, she still had the accent from home!
As a postscript to this story, within a year the bar had to move out of it's location, to a new spot. Very sad, but how lucky were we?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 17, 2015 11:22:36 GMT
is this the one?
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Post by glengael on Mar 17, 2015 11:48:24 GMT
By Anne Lucey Scores of Kerrymen working on rebuilding the Twin Towers site in New York feature in a radio programme due to be broadcast tomorrow. Kingdom Rising tells the story of the men from Kerry who worked in concrete, steel, carpentry and architecture to rebuild Ground Zero and the 9/11 memorial after the terrorist attacks. The Irish are synonymous with construction in the city. “Back to when the unions started in New York, Kerry men had a strong presence in 18 A, the concrete union in New York,” said programme producer and research Audrey Galvin. “There were so many of them working in Tower 1, it was nicknamed ‘The Kerry tower’.” Audrey uncovered the story through her cousin Paul Kenny, who works in security on the site, as well as through photographs which started appearing on Twitter. The documentary was recorded in New York over five days last November. It hears from Detective Tony Curtin, originally from Clounmacon in Listowel, now with the city’s Major Crimes Unit. He had spent months at the site, in the investigation after 9/11 and also at Staten Island sifting throughout the debris, mainly for body parts. Donal O’Sullivan, from Ballinskelligs, Co Kerry, is the owner of Navillus Construction, which won the concrete contract for the 9/11 memorial. “The memorial is where the two towers stood, all the new buildings are outside of that,” said Mr O’Sullivan. “We took it from the ground up, from the bottom to the plaza level, which is about 90 feet. We build the concrete work and the plaza. “It was the biggest single contract and it was a major job for us,” he said. The memorial was dedicated on September 11, 2011, in a ceremony attended by families of the victims. Last year, a museum was dedicated at the site. The radio programme hears from a number of eyewitnesses to 9/11, as well as those who joined in the recovery and rebuilding, including Paudie Spillane, from Spa in Killarney. New York has been his home for 30 years and he now works as a carpenter on tower 3. “No matter what you touch on the basement there is still dust there,” he said, “probably human remains — in the back of your mind you never forget a day like that. We knew this site would be a part of history so a lot of guys from Kerry on the site, signed the last beam going up on tower 4.” Audrey Galvin, meanwhile, said: “Kingdom Rising tells the stories of the men from Kerry who have worked on one of the most symbolic sites to terror and freedom in the world. “What they built are meaningful tributes to what happened at Ground Zero and their handprints are part of the history here.” The programme was completed with the support of the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, Sound and Vision Fund. It will be broadcast on Radio Kerry at 10am tomorrow. © Irish Examiner Ltd. All rights reserved Just listened. A fine documentary, well done to all involved.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 17, 2015 17:52:52 GMT
I came upon this clip from 1978.
Kerry followers who were there will remember this.
Minor final between Barney Rocks Dublin and Mayo.
The clip starts with Dublin 5 points ahead with about 10 to go and then Mayo take over and win by 4.
There is a clip of Dubs climbing the wall to get in to Hill 16. All tickets finals didn't start till 1984.
Mayo beat Kerry in the semi final and Tom Brennan (I think) came on and got a few goals. He did it again v Dublin. He is the tall sub.
The Kerry crowd got behind Mayo that day and the Mayo County Board placed a big THANK YOU to Kerry supporters in the following weeks Kerryman.
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Post by An Tarbh Rua on Mar 17, 2015 18:45:00 GMT
Think he was Tom Byrne. Also think he had son on 2013 Mayo team that won the minor AI.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 17, 2015 18:49:55 GMT
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 17, 2015 23:44:11 GMT
That's it exactly. The jukebox was gone. I asked the barman, he said, "it was put out in the street", and winked.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2015 11:35:24 GMT
Congrats to Robert Wharton Renard on adding the Leinster Schools Senior Cup to his All-Ireland minor medal. It must be a unique double.
Cistercian College Roscrea 18 Belvedere College 11
Title number one. Cistercian College, Roscrea, they who dwell 250 yards inside the Offaly border with north Tipperary, powered their way to the Leinster Schools senior cup in front of a crowd of 7,950 at the RDS. It was deserved, if a little jittery, as this well coached band of brothers brought a three-year odyssey to its fitting conclusion.
For long stretches it looked like Belvedere’s cerebral decision makers, particularly scrumhalf Hugh O’Sullivan, would out-fox their notably bigger opponents. The Navan teenager shredded Roscrea’s short side defence after just eight minutes to put winger Seán Long over. The execution was coldly accurate as number eight Tom de Jongh picked off a wheeling scrum, fed O’Sullivan who dashed between two defenders before a perfect left to right pass. In a second half change by Belvedere coach Phil Werahiko, O’Sullivan ended up at fullback. This seemed like a tactical error, that is, until we saw what Gregory O’Kelly could do from the base. Roscrea were all over the place in the opening half hour, making at least three uncharacteristic handling errors as everything seemed a little rushed. That was until outhalf Alan Tynan calmed matters when clipping the ball over Belvedere’s rushing defensive line to force a five-metre scrum. Up stepped big Dan Trayers. A backrow cum lock destined to end up in a provincial academy, Trayers scooped from the scrum before powering through Max Kearney and Conor Jennings while dragging De Jongh over the line with him. Just as he did against Newbridge in the semi-final replay. Tim Foley had already landed a penalty and while he missed that two-pointer his 75 per cent conversion rate was a dramatic improvement from this year’s winning captain. It mattered. Belvedere, however, squared matters by half-time with a Jennings penalty that seemed ridiculously harsh on Roscrea. There was at least three Belvedere players off their feet at the ruck but referee Dudley Phillips saw it differently from point-blank range. Belvedere, rank outsiders this season, but with most of their players returning in 2016, sensed their rare opportunity. Flanker Jess Iredale made four rumbling carries around another Jennings penalty that put them 11-8 ahead. That was when Roscrea, as a collective, refused to lose just their fourth ever final appearance. They are a well coached side by Pieter Swanepoel, maintaining an impressive shape under pressure which ensured their most damaging carriers – Trayers, props Liam Walsh and Dylan Murphy, Fineen Wycherley– took ball to the line to create space for the backs to exploit. Also, Mattie Keane, their openside, had another huge game before injury forced him ashore. Daniel Keane’s try on 47 minutes essentially settled the contest. It came off a slick skip pass by Foley to the game’s outstanding runner, fullback Tim Carroll, who deftly drew the last Belvedere defender before putting his winger over. Foley converted and added a penalty on 55 minutes. That was the last score but it shouldn’t have been. With three minutes remaining Belvedere, brave to the end, broke clear via a careering O’Kelly. His offload went to ground but Kearney scooped it up and was mere inches from the whitewash when felled by Brian Diffley’s heroic hand trip. The ball broke free. Scrum five Cistercians. The only stain on this captivating contest was the heavy handed work of match stewards as Roscrea fans attempted to get on the field afterwards. Leinster argued they are tenants at the RDS and avoiding injury was their main aim. A few young men, trying to embrace friends as the Roscrea team ran towards them, will have bruises this morning though. It all felt avoidable but insurance premiums dictate that the pitch invasions are seemingly a thing of the past. That and the always condescending Public Address announcer demanding the crowd heed his every word stuck in the craw. But it won’t have a long-lasting impact on Roscrea’s rapid ascent to the top of Leinster schools rugby. Not that this an overnight success. They reached the 2011 final, losing heavily to an excellent Clongowes Wood side, while survivors from the 2013 semi-final played key roles here. Men like Carroll, Rob Wharton and of course Trayers. Without the big number eight Roscrea wouldn’t have beaten Blackrock or Belvedere. Every player contributed when squeezing past Newbridge. All cup winners know it is the sum of the parts that always matters. Sure, Diffley was only playing because of injury to Simon Meagher. The champions sang ‘Stand By Me’ on the pitch afterwards. Fitting. SCORING SEQUENCE – 9 mins: S Long try, 0-5; 20 mins: T Foley pen, 5-3; 32 mins: D Trayers try, 5-8; 35 mins: C Jennings pen, 8-8. Half-time. 45 mins: C Jennings pen, 8-11; 48 mins: D Keane try, 13-11; T Foley con, 15-11; 56 mins: T Foley pen, 18-11. CISTERCIAN COLLEGE ROSCREA: T Carroll; D Keane, R Wharton, T Foley (capt), J Murphy; A Tynan, K Kavanagh; L Walsh, E Maher, D Murphy; F Wycherley, A Browne; S Meagher, M Keane, D Trayers. Replacements: B Diffley for S Meagher (41 mins), P Gavin for A Browne (64 mins), K Cahir for M Keane (68 mins). BELVEDERE COLLEGE: E Cleere; S Long, J McKeown, D Monaghan, O McGrath; C Jennings, H O’Sullivan; M Sweeney (capt), A Hynes, E Molloy; J Kenny, B Egan; J Iredale, M Kearney, T de Jongh. Replacements: R McCreevy for B Egan (30 min mins), S McNulty for J Kenny, G O’Kelly for O McGrath (both 51 mins), D McCaffrey for A Hynes, H Sexton for J McKeown (both 57 mins), J Clarke for E Molloy (67 mins). Referee: D Phillips (ARLB).
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2015 18:33:36 GMT
Jesus they were all talking about the eclipse today at work and I was the only one to mention the biggest eclipse in recent years when a shooting Star in Kerry eclipsed Mayo and all the way up to Donegal and the path of totality isn't over yet there!
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Post by southward on Mar 20, 2015 19:30:43 GMT
I see Denis Bastick's black card v Kerry has been overturned. We have to start appealing stuff down here.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 20, 2015 20:06:39 GMT
I see Denis Bastick's black card v Kerry has been overturned. We have to start appealing stuff down here. Nah --- that is negative energy cf. Lee Keegan.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 20, 2015 21:20:19 GMT
I see Denis Bastick's black card v Kerry has been overturned. We have to start appealing stuff down here. Was it upgraded to Red?
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Post by southward on Mar 20, 2015 21:45:55 GMT
I see Denis Bastick's black card v Kerry has been overturned. We have to start appealing stuff down here. Was it upgraded to Red? Funnily enough, no. I think they might be awarding him a purple heart for gallantry instead. This what they said : “The Hearings Committee found that the video evidence provided was sufficiently compelling to prove that the Defending Party (Bastick) did not deliberately pull down an opponent; however, it found that a lesser infraction of rough play had occurred. The Committee directed that the original fixed penalty for the cynical behaviour infraction be set aside.” And here is the "accident"... bcove.me/m1g846h8Paul Murphy must be well pissed.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 20, 2015 22:05:58 GMT
Joe Schmidt wants to know was it "photoshopped".
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 21, 2015 0:12:21 GMT
Good footage of the dig thrown by Star
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2015 0:21:06 GMT
The Gaelic Football Rule Changes which become operative on 1 January 2014 are as follows:
1. Introduction of a Black Card for Cynical Behaviour Fouls. 2. Change in the number of substitutes allowed. 3. Distinction between Deliberate and Accidental Fouls. 4. Definition of the Tackle. 5. Introduction of a clearer Advantage Rule. 6. A player in possession may score a point with an open-handed hand-pass.
Cynical Behaviour Fouls
1. Deliberately pull down an opponent. 2. Deliberately trip an opponent with the hand(s), arm, leg or foot. 3. Deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play. 4. Threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or a teammate. 5. Remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
The penalty for the above fouls are:
i. Free Kick from where the foul occurred. ii. Order Off offender by showing him a Black Card*. iii. Allow a replacement from within the substitutions permitted*. *Substitutes • Increased to SIX per team. • Maximum of THREE permitted for Black Card Offenders.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2015 0:22:16 GMT
I assume that Bastick was adjudged not to have deliberately pulled down KD
By any objective analysis, its hard to see how they came to that. Clearly he pulled him down so they must have decided it wasn't deliberate
I thought it fitted neatly into the black card category
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 7:08:03 GMT
I missed the start of this game, so first time seeing it.
As they land, bastick puts donaghy in some form of headlock. Donaghy throws a dig at bastick who then responds far too aggressively.
I would say definite yellow for bastick given he was the instigator and also overly aggressive. Donaghy technically should have got a yellow also albeit it would have been on the harsh side.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2015 8:21:37 GMT
I must be feeling particularly biased today because I can't see any dig by KD.
I don't think by the spirit of the rules is it a black card - it is dangerous more than cynical. However by the letter of the rules I can't see how it isn't black.
But again this is all wasted energy. I think we have been well-served in Kerry by accepting sanctions - let others get caught up in these appeals while we prepare properly...unless of course there was a blatant mistake, not a technicality, by the referee.
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Post by keane on Mar 21, 2015 12:18:35 GMT
That's rough play rather than cynical play in my eyes. Doesn't fit the spirit of the black card rule imo.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2015 13:21:29 GMT
could those of you who can spot Donaghy throwing a dig state the exact second this happens as I can spot it at all
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 21, 2015 15:16:50 GMT
I dont see one.
The Rule states "deliberately pull down an opponent". What do people think sBastick actually did. Maybe its because he actually flung him down is the reason for the rescinding of his card.
I could understand if the referee gave a yellow or red on the day, instead of a black because it was dangerous play. However it satisfies the definition of the black card and how it can be overturned on appeal is bizzare.
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