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Post by KerryLad on Jul 26, 2010 10:46:34 GMT
Down are a decent outfit especially from number 8 up the pitch. Their backs are a weak link though. Having attended the league final it was clear to see that they could make no shape towards handling Stevie McDonald at all.
Declan needs to start and stay at centre forward and forget this craic of throwing him out to the wing. Put Sheehan back in the corner and start Darren on the wing. I think the forward 6 could do well this weekend as Down arent a dirty or overly physical team and it may be an open enough game. Interesting to note that Dan Gordan started at full back again for Down last weekend. He is a good fielder so the long ball option into Donaghy might need to be tailored abit. Afew low balls in beside Donaghy could open Down up because if Gordan is full back again i think his positioning and marking could be suspect while his high fielding would be a strong point.
Our midfield issue could be a problem. Quirkes mobility in Croker could be exposed as the Down midfielders do like to get forward. One of their midfielders scored a goal at the weekend after making a good off the ball run. However Quirke is vital to us winning primary possession around the middle especially with Galvin missing for the breaks so how best to utilise him will be an interesting question for Jack and the lads. Start him,take him off after 20-25 and bring him back on for Scanlon in the final 15-20? Have him on the bench and bring him on just before half time? Down started very strongly against Tyrone and took a big lead early on. I would not like to give them that sort of advantage so I think Quirke should start.
The Down forward 6 are a good unit if they get enough of the ball. D Hughes, M Poland, P McComiskey, B Coulter, J Clarke, M Clarke are all good players. Add R Murtagh to the mix who came on and scored 1-5 in 25mins and they will have to be watched. As AWB mentioned M Clarke and Coulter tend to go all over the place but McComiskey is a tidy enough corner forward so he usually slots into the ff line when one of the others goes roaming. Killian may be the man for him or Reidy if fit.
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Post by lorr29 on Jul 26, 2010 10:47:55 GMT
Cheers Kerrygold. I'm delighted I'll be able to get a match while I'm home ;D No worries lorr, where else would you want to be, crossing the pond, Croker bound with the evenings shortening and a wee kick of autumn in the air. counting down the days KG, just get thru this week and I'm homeward bound, happy days
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 26, 2010 11:00:21 GMT
Unofficially: Saturday, July 31st: 12pm. Kerry v Longford 2pm: Kerry v Down 4pm: Dublin v Tyrone
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Post by diego on Jul 26, 2010 11:08:13 GMT
very unofficial(!). minor quarters are Tyrone v Kerry, Longford v Galway
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Post by lorr29 on Jul 26, 2010 11:10:39 GMT
Unofficially: Saturday, July 31st: 12pm. Kerry v Longford 2pm: Kerry v Down 4pm: Dublin v Tyrone is this a rumour you heard or just a guess? I'd love to see the Tyrone Dublin game,
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 26, 2010 11:26:45 GMT
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 26, 2010 11:35:26 GMT
That doesnt suit at all.. Sunday would be better
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 26, 2010 11:37:52 GMT
Can ye stop about Paul, he cannot play this game and the game cannot be the monday eithre as not a Bank Holiday for Down
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Post by KerryLad on Jul 26, 2010 12:12:09 GMT
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Post by KerryLad on Jul 26, 2010 12:24:36 GMT
All the other games have been fixed for sunday
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Post by gaapunter on Jul 26, 2010 12:29:57 GMT
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Post by Dermot on Jul 26, 2010 12:33:34 GMT
Best draw possible for Kerry I would have thought.
Nice side of the draw ... It means that you can only face either Cork or Tyrone (if no one else steps up) and you have a decent game with Down which will do you more good than a game against Roscommon would have.
All in all, the best possible outcome for Kerry.
Personally I'm happy enough with our lot too ... A game against the Dubs and there's little to compare with that for the atmosphere and the craic.
I wonder who will meet you in the final ? ... I hope itsd us but its a long way off !
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Post by animal on Jul 26, 2010 12:49:39 GMT
2pm Saturday eh? there shoould be a cracking atmosphere on Saturday with Dublin and Tyrone also playing. looking forward to it.
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Post by veteran on Jul 26, 2010 12:54:31 GMT
Dermot,
Could you give us an assessment of the Down lads as individuals ans as a a team. I am afraid I know more about their 1960/61 team than I do about these lads!!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 26, 2010 13:00:22 GMT
last year we played Antrim, the day I arrived in Antrim. This year I live in Down and we play Down. Maybe I should move to Leitrim Why whats up with Leitrim? Grow up a small bit kid Just would be nice if Leitrim would get that far, wouldn't it? I think Down are a formidable outfit but not at the level of the big teams yet. If Kerry are at their best we can win this, if not we would be overrun. Down are looking to shock the world and will not fear Kerry at all. Down are a young, extremely fit outfit and had some good chances versus Tyrone to close the game in the first half. Tyrone's experience was hugely important in seeing them over the line. Down lost by 4 points in the end but that's mostly due to the subs being used in the game. Not many teams can bring on talent as subs like Tyrone did in that match: Brian McGuigan, Sean O'Neill, Tommy McGuigan, Ryan Mellon, Colm McCullagh. Down however went on a tour after that: Down 3-20 Sligo 0-10 Offaly 1-10 Down 1-12 Down 1-14 Longford 1-10 They've improved in every game after that and are now not to be underestimated.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 26, 2010 13:05:23 GMT
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 26, 2010 13:33:04 GMT
18 months in, he still doesn't know his best team. ..........says it all for now.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 26, 2010 13:35:31 GMT
Dermot, Could you give us an assessment of the Down lads as individuals ans as a a team. I am afraid I know more about their 1960/61 team than I do about these lads!! ;D I cant promise too much Veteran but I'll give it a wee go. The main men you need to be looking out for are well know to you. Coulter is a very dangerous boy ... Every once in a while he has a real stormer of a game and funnily enough I was thinking about just this last night when I heard the draw .. Even though I fully expect Kerry to win, I expect Down to be very pleased with this draw because of the obvious history .. They will be well up for this and it will be their biggest game since the ninties. If they get their swagger the likes of Coulter could cause you a lot of trouble ... Its hit and miss with him sometimes but if he's got his goal scoring boots on then ye could be in for a tough game. The one thing about Coulter is that he can win his own ball very well ... whether its low or high as he's an excellent fielder and as I'm sure you know sometimes swaps between the 40 and FF ... He's probably drag his marker all over the place,.... I'd imagin JOC will have either T Sullivan or M O'Se on him ? Clarke is also coming along nicely and is getting better and again I would expect Kerry to bring out the best in him .. He feeds the other forwards well and has the strength and guile to hold on to the ball until he see's a decent opportunity .. basically he doesnt waste too much ball. Murtagh and hughes are a bit hit & miss too but if they click will cause problems. Ambrose Rodgers is a very decent midfielder and I'm not too sure what way MF will end up in your game ... Just dont know .. Who will you have out ? Their defence is obviously their achilles heel but I see they've got Dan Gorden in FB now .. He's a good fielder and a decent all round midfeilder but I'm not too familiar with him at FB so time will tell a tale there. It will be interesting to see him and Donaghy at it !! Dont get me wrong they have some decent players in the defence but dont always gel the way they maybe could but wee james has been working on that flat out for a while now. Basically they will be coming into this game on a high from the sligo match ... I'm sure you know better than the rest of us Veteran what Down are like when they get their tails up and their swagger going ... Hard to stop. Saying all that it would be a big shock to me if they beat yez, but I'm sure thats what people thought in the 60's too.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 26, 2010 13:36:33 GMT
Cork v Kerry replay - friends wedding abroad Kerry v Limerick - friends wedding abroad Down v Kerry - Friends wedding abroad
Says it all for my year really. I've been reduced to picking through the mess that was the Louth / Dublin / Kildare / Monaghan double header for my footballing thrills!!
On the flip side......I've never left out a more excited yelp after a GAA draw than I did when Down were drawn out.
It is one of the rare blemishes on Kerry's notepad that we have never beaten Down in the senior championship.
Time to repair that.
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Post by popeye on Jul 26, 2010 13:46:20 GMT
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Post by fortyyards on Jul 26, 2010 13:56:44 GMT
When he says abroad he probably means Cork............ after all I'm sure you heard that those Cork people hate the Irish ;D
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Post by updekingdom2 on Jul 26, 2010 13:56:56 GMT
the 3 open is on in killarney during the weekend,3 have invested millions in this event and yet the gaa wouldnt give kerry a break,the reason for this is probably that galvin would be allowed play.the open will probably never come to killarney again if 3 are sponsoring it.the kerry minors are playing at 12.45 in croke park,if this doesnt tell us that we are hated i dont know what does.the kerry county board would want to get off their arses and do something instead of playing the nice guy all the time.we are the ones spending all our money going to the games and yet were treated like absolute dirt.
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Post by Derek on Jul 26, 2010 14:06:19 GMT
the 3 open is on in killarney during the weekend,3 have invested millions in this event and yet the gaa wouldnt give kerry a break,the reason for this is probably that galvin would be allowed play.the open will probably never come to killarney again if 3 are sponsoring it.the kerry minors are playing at 12.45 in croke park,if this doesnt tell us that we are hated i dont know what does.the kerry county board would want to get off their arses and do something instead of playing the nice guy all the time.we are the ones spending all our money going to the games and yet were treated like absolute dirt. Completely agree, bought the 4 day ticket for the golf, and have my season ticket for the saturday so have to make a call on which one to miss out on. 1 Week wouldnt have killed them, if twas on below in fota you can be sure it would have been put back by a week. I thought the gaa had assured the event organisers that they wouldnt fix a Kerry game for this weekend.
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Post by popeye on Jul 26, 2010 14:29:13 GMT
the 3 open is on in killarney during the weekend,3 have invested millions in this event and yet the gaa wouldnt give kerry a break,the reason for this is probably that galvin would be allowed play.the open will probably never come to killarney again if 3 are sponsoring it.the kerry minors are playing at 12.45 in croke park,if this doesnt tell us that we are hated i dont know what does.the kerry county board would want to get off their arses and do something instead of playing the nice guy all the time.we are the ones spending all our money going to the games and yet were treated like absolute dirt. Completely agree, bought the 4 day ticket for the golf, and have my season ticket for the saturday so have to make a call on which one to miss out on. 1 Week wouldnt have killed them, if twas on below in fota you can be sure it would have been put back by a week. I thought the gaa had assured the event organisers that they wouldnt fix a Kerry game for this weekend. Your spot on there my friend the Gaa promised that if Kerry reached the quarter final that there game would not clash with the irish golf open in killarney. The Gaa has its primary aim and thats money as we all know. Think of all the tickets they could have sold to people but these people already had irish open tickets.There only losing out themselves by not putting the game back by a week.
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Post by kerryeye on Jul 26, 2010 14:38:09 GMT
Very true..The Galvin factor must have played some role in this..Why wouldnt they just put the Kery game back to the following Saturday,when it wasnt possible to play it on Monday.Ridiculous decision that doesnt surprise me in the slightest.When would Kerry ever have a favour done for them by the GAA hierarchy?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 26, 2010 14:56:14 GMT
I'm quite sure that Galvin would be banned from playing this weekend anyway. Isn't he banned until the 8th? Doesn't it say for a month or at least 2 games in the cccc statement? The schedule for the quarters has been out since November last year so 3 would have known it was on this weekend. We just didn't know which day of the weekend. Considering there are 6 games on this weekend with some Ulster teams involved (it's not a bank holiday up here) they had to plan 3 games a day for this weekend. They did rather well I think.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 26, 2010 15:16:45 GMT
My bank manager is having a great time with the ever increasing loan I took out to help finance them!!
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Post by kerryeye on Jul 26, 2010 15:18:30 GMT
What we were saying Flemish is that the game should be played the following weekend ..Galvin would be free to pay then!
I know they did this in 2005 to give Tyrone and Dublin a stand alone fixture..they played it the weekend after the other 3 games so it wouldnt have been a new thing for them to do!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 26, 2010 15:38:45 GMT
I know but they decided to have it this weekend as far back as last November. I would have liked these 3 fixtures for next weekend too but I doubt the GAA's decision to have the games all this weekend is not due to Galvin's suspension as I think it said for at least 2 games. So even if the suspension would be over that weekend it would still apply as he has to miss two games. Regrettable but part of a ban. Why the GAA can't postpone the game in favour of the open? Good question, but I doubt we'll ever hear the true reason. There's always something going on each weekend and I doubt this was another anti-Kerry conspiracy. The clan around Cooney might not be big Kerry supporters but not every decision that's made is just to annoy Kerrymen. Last year the Kerry-Dublin QF was on the bank holiday Monday; this year we play Down and they don't have a day off on the Monday so that wasn't an option. My wallet thanks Kerry for now playing in Croke park again as it saves me a lot of time and money travelling to Dublin instead of Killarney. Of course it's the other way round for those living in the kingdom. Had to miss last year's QF final as I was doing my routing and switching exam during the game and I was gutted about that. This year I should start a new position this Monday but I took a day off in advance just to be sure. Just like I already took a day off after the semi finals and after the final. I hope you'll find a solution for it somehow.
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Post by delorean on Jul 26, 2010 15:48:07 GMT
The 07:20 train is booked out from Tralee already. Will they be putting on a special do ye think?
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