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Post by kerryman on Jun 23, 2006 14:22:08 GMT
I assumed its in Killarney. Any word on tickets yet?
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Post by buck02 on Jun 23, 2006 15:05:29 GMT
From Willy O'Connors Article (come on lads read the website!!)
The Kerry Senior Football team play Cork in the Final of the Bank Of Ireland Munster Senior Football Championship at Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney on Sunday July 12th at 4.00 p.m. The Final of the ESB Munster Minor Football Championship will have a 2.00 p.m. start.
The Munster Final is an ALL TICKET game. Admission to the Stand and the terraces will be by ticket only. Tickets will be allocated to clubs, County Committee delegates, players, team managements, District Boards, Schools Committees and other units as soon as they become available. We will get an extra ticket allocation from Munster Council if the Kerry Minor team is involved in the Minor Final.
Members of the Kerry County Board 2003-2008 Ticket Purchase Scheme are reminded that Friday June 30th is the closing date for receipt of their applications for tickets under this scheme for the Bank Of Ireland Munster Football Final. With the limited seating accommodation at Fitzgerald Stadium members of the scheme are reminded that their entitlement is one ticket per unit.
Applications should be addressed to Éamon Ó’Súilleabháin, Rúnaí, PO Box 125, The Pavilion, Austin Stack Park, Tralee. A stamped addressed envelope should accompany the application and the cost of the Stand Ticket (€30). Members of the scheme who wish to apply in person at the County Board Office should also have a written application with them when they call and have an addressed envelope marked “To be collected.”
Tickets allocated to the scheme will be reallocated to the clubs and other units after the closing date.
As the build up for the Munster Final begins we urge our supporters to show their support for the Kerry team by proudly showing the county colours in every town, village and in rural areas as well. Flags and banners ought to be displayed everywhere. Other counties have done this and the displays of colour really build up a great atmosphere in the weeks and days before the big game.
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Post by KY50 on Jun 27, 2006 8:26:24 GMT
A word of warning. Dublin were very poor against Longford, Cork were very poor against Limerick. The reason for this is the type of training done prior to big matchs these days. Teams like Cork, Dublin know that worst case scenario they will get a second chance. Dublin were gearing up for Laois (possibily overestimated them) and Cork are gearing up for us. They will be flying for the game against us so we should not be lax.
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Post by animal on Jun 27, 2006 9:57:15 GMT
Fair point KY50. All the better for us if Cork really put it up to us. Soft games are no use at all at this stage. Tyrone and Armagh have been severely tested already which will only bring them on. Has anyone been in to see the boys training? Can we expect anything interesting to happen with the attack?
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jun 27, 2006 19:21:25 GMT
I agree with you Mossie regarding Mike Mac and would expect him back in the team , if not for the Cork , certainly the next. He is a proven championship defender - one of the very best in the country.
Cork will give us a game , you can be sure of that. I wouldn't take any notice of the Limerick game.
I think this will be a masive game for Donaghy - if he comes out of it with head held high then this will be a huge boost to him and the team for future games.
I'd start Fitzmaurice at the expense of Brosnan.
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Post by Happy on Jun 30, 2006 20:25:30 GMT
backs & midfiels are predictable but the forwards are a def causefor concern, i know midfield is strong with o se & star but if it came to it & needing a target man desperatley what about swapping star & bryan Sheehan - who started at full forward, star is tall & strong likewise with sheehan but he needs to show more for the ball or else the ball has to go in QUICKER! in the league final does anyone need remindin of that first half with crossfield passing, slow, cul de sac? we need to be quicker esp agaginst cork & billy morgan, they'll be well fired up never mind that farce of a limerick game & likewise our own 2,this is a munster final a big difference & we need some sort of performance from our men it' s cork we're kerry this is rivalry & history at its best. billy is psyched up too much cos he's gnna be playin his men negatively so noone should expect a classic this could get ugly knowing cork fionnan murray,etc it will get ugly, kerry need to stay focused not to retaliate get a good game send the ball in QUICKER & more EFFICIENTLY sort out the forwards and above all BEAT CORK....how bout this f line declan o's-he can break midfield win ball take on defence draw the foul kinda unlucky on him too as he cant show his natural scoring ability, darren o's - run at defence draw the foul pacy, galvin- a fn workhorse, ronan o'c-strong can do his best when given the chance a poss target man sheehan tall,freetaker,target man,cooper? needs to get focused. this team need a game & a Performance quarter finals pair mun ster & ulster,tyrone are there,armagh these guys are gettin stronger by the game tyrone fair rnough lot of injuries holmes,mcguigan,dooher but theyre back on track armagh have had 2 drawn games but 2 won the 2 replays so a shoe up the backside against cork is whats needed. anyone agree we're missin dara o'c & Liam h's workrate? would it be possble hthat maybe just maybe the past 2 years are cming back to haunt them? they look tired & sluggish, in spillane's column in sun world few weeks bac he said jack wasn't happy in dressin roo after but that some players stood up sayin twas cos of the amount of intense training sessions the had coming up to the game, is it that or is there unrest in the camp?
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jun 30, 2006 22:13:35 GMT
God allmighty Happy, ever heard of paragraphs? - Difficult to keep track , especially late on Friday night.
Are you sure about Sheehan at midfield? I don't agree that he could do job at midfield and think Bryan needs tro be doing a lot more to hold his place in the forwards despite his free-taking ability.
Cork will be tough and I am beginning to thinn that it would be no harm if they beat us.
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 1, 2006 9:53:47 GMT
"From Willy O'Connors Article (come on lads read the website!!) The Kerry Senior Football team play Cork in the Final of the Bank Of Ireland Munster Senior Football Championship at Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney on Sunday July 12th at 4.00 p.m. " Jaysus, will somebody give Willy a calender! I now think Kerry will beat Cork because they know they will want to avoid Armagh until at least the Semi. Thats the extra little bit of motivation that might make the difference. Of course if Armagh lose then Kerry would get them in the quarters if they beat Cork, but I'm sure Kerry expect Armagh to win. I dont think that you really fear Donegal, unless they have grown into a team at the levels of Armagh and Tyrone of the past few years, but that seems very unlikely. Sure they have a fine bunch of footballers, but temperament has often been very suspect. Not like the Dubs wha!
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 1, 2006 12:56:35 GMT
Happy, shows how much you know about Cork if you still think Fionnan Murray will be playing.. he’s not even on the panel.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 3, 2006 9:46:12 GMT
Cork will be tough and I am beginning to thinn that it would be no harm if they beat us. I'll tell you the harm in them beating us. WE'd have to listen to their * until next July. And imagine the smug head on Billy morgan. Christ no. There is harm in those fellas beating us alright.
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Post by seamus on Jul 3, 2006 9:50:43 GMT
I COULD NOT LISTEN TO BILLY MORGAN IF CORK BEAT US.
END OF STORY.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 3, 2006 9:59:33 GMT
I'm looking forward to beating Cork and then listening to Morgan's excuses "they're the most cynical team in the country bla, bla, bla, bla, I dont know my a"%e from my elbow etc etc."
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Post by twohands on Jul 3, 2006 11:52:45 GMT
it will get ugly, kerry need to stay focused not to retaliate I know ye play by different rules, but in most places in the world you can only call it retaliation if you weren't the first to foul. Do what most refs seem loathe to and have a good look at your own lads before throwing any comments around about other counties. Ye wouldn't hear Billy at all on Sunday if Cork won. The noise of the stampede to get rid of Jack would drown him out. But I wouldn't be worrying your little heads about that at all. We know where we fit in the greater scheme of things, so we went and got a goalkeeper who can kick out the ball.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 3, 2006 12:01:42 GMT
A week to go and I can't wait. Taking Friday off to head down early and get in some quality time with the folks and take in the home air, and the Monday morning off so that I can head home after the match to watch the World Cup instead of trying to pick it up on medium or longwave outside Roscrea and the McDonalds on my lap and the big cup of coke flying around the place!
I'm sure there'll be much talk here (only three pages so far, come on boys and girls, it's a Munster final, Cork v Kerry, in Killarney, what more incentive do you need to start chatting football for the week) so I'll hold fire for a while on predictions etc.
But.....any word on squads etc? Did anybody see the Sunday Game where Pat had Bernard Flynn and Paul Curran chatting about the game. Interesting discussion on Kerry still not knowing their best starting forward six. Both mentioned Brosnan as needing to be in top form.
How is training going? Any word on Gooch being tried at half forward or if Mike McCarthy was playing for the probables v the possibles or the other way around?
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 3, 2006 12:05:23 GMT
Ye wouldn't hear Billy at all on Sunday if Cork won. The man would take a full page out in the Indo. Remember, this is the same man who kicked two Kerry men out of his pub one evening after a Cork v Kerry game in Pairc Ui Caoimh. Between them, they had 15 All Ireland senior football medals.
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Post by kerryman on Jul 3, 2006 12:20:46 GMT
I can head home after the match to watch the World Cup instead of trying to pick it up on medium or longwave outside Roscrea and the McDonalds on my lap and the big cup of coke flying around the place! ....ha ha. I've heard very little. The quitest build up to a Munster final ever.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jul 3, 2006 12:29:10 GMT
Lads let me re-phrase my earlier statement a bit - I hope Cork give us a good game, perhaps give us a good shock or even earn a draw.
I think we could do with the extra game as we are not yet on form in all departments.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 3, 2006 12:59:13 GMT
Come on folks! Its next sunday its against Cork in Killarney!! Thats what summer football is all about. A nice day a good spot on the hill a few pints what a great day out! Cork are so pessimistic they closed their official chat room the week before the Munster final!! However, I for one think Cork will be a lot better than the Limerick game for two reasons: 1) Its against Kerry 2) They have nothing to lose. It will be a good test for Kerry. Dont think it will be easy and that will help us in the long run hopefully. If Kerry are complacent will could get a nice kick in the A**
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Post by hugh20 on Jul 3, 2006 13:10:42 GMT
Ya the key is not to get complacent,hopefully cork will give us a good game because we need it but all the same I still think the outcome will be kerry again! Cork are simply not good enough regardless that it is kerry they are playing! Masters kicked every score except two against limerick(open to correction) but if you ask me he is a very beatable forward!
I would like to see gooch on the 40 because the ball is not going in to him quick enough and if he is inside he will pulled and dragged around the place whereas on the 40 he can display his magnificent passing ability!??
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Post by twohands on Jul 3, 2006 13:24:38 GMT
Remember, this is the same man who kicked two Kerry men out of his pub one evening after a Cork v Kerry game in Pairc Ui Caoimh. Between them, they had 15 All Ireland senior football medals. Ah yes, the old pub story. Sure God love us. A two on one against a Cork keeper and they still couldn't make it count. How many pints do 15 All Ireland medals buy you in Kerry and when are ye moving to the euro?
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 3, 2006 13:34:48 GMT
None.....it gets you respect down our way.....something Billy didn't show them.
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Post by twohands on Jul 3, 2006 15:07:03 GMT
I wasn't there so I don't know what happened or who was at fault. The fact that they were in that pub, of all the pubs in Cork on the day in question suggests there may be two sides to the story, if in fact there is a story. It wasn't exactly on their route home.
Bottom line is Billy has over the years shown lots of respect to Kerry football. I don't know him personally but my understanding is that he has a very good relationship with many of the Kerry players he played against. He has no desire, however, to spend his life doffing the cap to ye which is what many of ye seem to expect. He believes that Cork should be able to put it up to Kerry and can't understand people who don't share that view. If that means he gets a bit carried away at times then so be it. Not all Kerry managers have been angels down through the years. Not all Cork managers have been much different to Billy either, but they didn't make the fatal mistake of actually winning the odd game.
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Post by realist on Jul 3, 2006 15:08:19 GMT
I would just worry about Sunday about who is going to score for us? It seems that we have potentially 2 naturally scoring forwards in Gooch and Sheehan, but what happens if they are held??? Galving might chip in but he is not a "Natural" scoring forward in my opinion(much improved in the last 2 year don't get me wrong!but he is on the team to run and sweep up a lot between mid-field and half backs. Brosnan not at all! Declan will spend too much time in our half back line and whoever starts between fitzy and darren aint scorers either!
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Post by buck02 on Jul 3, 2006 15:38:49 GMT
I think Kerry will be up for this big time. They've been criticised for their displays against Waterford & Tipp and will want to silence those critics. A lot of players have a point to prove and no better place to do it than in Killarney against Cork. Then of course theres the Morgan factor. His bitter rants after their last 2 defeats to Kerry will be discussed by the team and management I'm sure and this will help to counteract any complacency the team might have shown.
Down to the team I'd go for the following the next day. Murphy Marc Mike Mc Tom Sullivan Tom Se Moynihan Mahony Darragh Donaghy Galvin Brosnan Sheehan Gooch Declan MFR
It'll be a chance for the likes of Mike Frank and Brosnan to prove whether or not they'll do a job this year and for Sheehan to test his mettle at this level. Mossie would be very unlucky to lose out as he has hardly put a foot wrong all year but I'd still feel this is our strongest 6 backs.
The big question of course is how to counteract Corks 13 men behind the ball strategy that I'm sure they'll apply. I think if we can kick points from 40/50 yards out when we get a chance then we should be doing just that, all our forwards plus the likes of Darragh & Tomas are well able to do this. Occasionally we can test out the Cork full back line with a high ball in but with Canty in there he'll prosper under that kind of stuff so we shouldnt over rely on it.
All in all I think we'll probably win by 4 or 5 points, with a scoreline somewhere along the lines of 1-14 to 0-12.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 3, 2006 16:10:07 GMT
Would be in general agreement there Buck, with the exception of the great MFR. He hasn't proven it this year when given the chance, and even when he came on against Tipp, after the first point which had enough anger in it that I think it hit the Mir Space Station about 9 hours later, he lost his way badly again.
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Post by twohands on Jul 3, 2006 16:28:53 GMT
Cork's 13 man behind the ball strategy or Cork's effort to match Kerry's tendency to crowd the space around midfield and the 40? If ye are kicking points from 40/50 yards on Sunday there's something badly wrong.
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Post by pony on Jul 3, 2006 17:15:29 GMT
Lads, just putting this out there. Is there anything to be said for having Mossey Lyons on the half forward line?? Stikes me as a kind of replacment for Hassett.Is good and calm on the ball and can pass it about too. Just throwing that out there
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 3, 2006 21:01:29 GMT
A week to go and I can't wait. Taking Friday off to head down early and get in some quality time with the folks and take in the home air, and the Monday morning off so that I can head home after the match to watch the World Cup instead of trying to pick it up on medium or longwave outside Roscrea and the McDonalds on my lap and the big cup of coke flying around the place! Classic stuff lads, keep it up! The story about the two players in the pub is deadly! My own Cork story is that after the League Final in Pairc Ui Chaoimh 1999 I was forced against my will to drink beer out of the League Cup. Ah well, at least they didnt kick it round the street like the Tuam lads with Sam........... Cork showed some subtle but significant signs of improvement in the League, but then again, they could hardly fail to improve on the last 2 years! No doubt the rivalry in the Munster Final is still a great levelller. If I wasnt working I'd go down to gatecrash the party. Killarney is great. Oh well, another year............
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 4, 2006 9:24:22 GMT
Lads, just putting this out there. Is there anything to be said for having Mossey Lyons on the half forward line?? Stikes me as a kind of replacment for Hassett.Is good and calm on the ball and can pass it about too. Just throwing that out there Eh, keep throwing Pony :-) Only messing. It's interesting, but if anybody, Marc is the best of the back seven (I'm including the seven automatic backs fighting for six places) as a natural footballer who can take his score etc.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 4, 2006 9:43:32 GMT
The main problem with Mossie is that he slows the thing down that bit too much, now I know he rarely if ever gives it away but the last thing we need is another forward who slows down the game too much.
I see Joe McQuillan of Cavan is down to ref the game, if memory serves me right he reffed one of the Cork games too last year (semi final I think).
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